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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 06:31 AM
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I am extremely concerned using a Motor Cycle oil on my Evo. How is this OK?
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 10:40 AM
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I am extremely concerned using a Motor Cycle oil on my Evo. How is this OK?
How is it not? Motorcycles have pistons, rings and bearings just like an evo.
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 11:13 AM
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$886 plus shipping on amsoil site. thats a **** ton of oil. keep in mind if youre buying the amsoil you can leave it in pretty damn long vs mobil1 or other oils. Its very good stuff.
much much more cheaper
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 11:15 AM
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What does something like that cost shipped to 92596?
i pmd you.
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 11:18 AM
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do more research on their site and you can get it 20-25% cheaper.. im not gonna show you how tho
and i can help with that to, if you all need me to.
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 12:05 PM
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I didn't see it mentioned in this thread, so I just wanted to give the info for Amsoil SSO-0w30. I personally think a 0w-30 is going to be better than a 10w-40 for most people reading this with stock motor, daily drivers.

Zn/P for Amsoil SSO 0W-30 (what I use) is 1183/963 from a VOA here.

The TBN is low for what it's supposed to be and from other UOAs I have seen, but nonetheless, it's a VOA and some good information on the oil. I think it's a very good oil for a daily driven, stock motor Evo. I personally run it on my 400/400 stock turbo daily driver running E85.

A higher viscosity oil will cause more harm than good, especially at startup, where most of the wear will come from. A racing oil with no detergents is simply a bad choice, unless you make your living racing your Evo and rebuild the engine frequently. It really matters what you are using your car for. Just use the oil that best fits that application as well as fits the requirements as to FPs statement, if you're running their turbos.

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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by l2r99gst
Zn/P for Amsoil SSO 0W-30 (what I use) is 1183/963 from a VOA here.

The TBN is low for what it's supposed to be and from other UOAs I have seen, but nonetheless, it's a VOA and some good information on the oil. I think it's a very good oil for a daily driven, stock motor Evo. I personally run it on my 400/400 stock turbo daily driver running E85.

A higher viscosity oil will cause more harm than good, especially at startup, where most of the wear will come from. A racing oil with no detergents is simply a bad choice, unless you make your living racing your Evo and rebuild the engine frequently. It really matters what you are using your car for. Just use the oil that best fits that application as well as fits the requirements as to FPs statement, if you're running their turbos.

- The ZDDP package for the SSO is higher than what you posted, you are posting ZDDP levels for a used oil after UOA's at the lab, pour it right out of the bottle and the levels are higher.
SSO 0W30 is the strongest oil we have, is meant to be abused, high ZZDP, high detergent package,,,,,
ill place this oil against any oil out there mano a mano it will take any oil down

- Racing oils do have SOME detergents not to the level that the others do, however if you change your race oil often enough you dont need to worry about dirty engines, or oxidation.
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 01:51 PM
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I posted a link to a VOA not a UOA.
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 08:51 PM
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Finally got a chance to read through this thread...I used Mobile 1 10w-30 for 20k miles or so and I've used Royal Purple 10w-30 for the past 30k+...When my head was off to do headstuds and all my timing belt stuff the motor looked great...BUT my FP Red did go out on me in 3k miles or so while using the Royal Purple...oh well...Now I am running a CBRD BBK Full turbo...I think it may be time to switch to AMO 10w-40 oil at my next oil change...
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 09:45 PM
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glad i looked in here
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by apagan01
- The ZDDP package for the SSO is higher than what you posted, you are posting ZDDP levels for a used oil after UOA's at the lab, pour it right out of the bottle and the levels are higher.
SSO 0W30 is the strongest oil we have, is meant to be abused, high ZZDP, high detergent package,,,,,
ill place this oil against any oil out there mano a mano it will take any oil down

- Racing oils do have SOME detergents not to the level that the others do, however if you change your race oil often enough you dont need to worry about dirty engines, or oxidation.
so which oils better for daily driving with stock motor 400whp+

10w 40 or 0w 30?
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 05:32 AM
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My vote is SSO 0W-30 for stock motor, stock turbo.
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 05:37 AM
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I have a FP Black stock motor, I run royal purple 10w-30. Have been running it for 10,000 + miles no problem..

and if you ask 200 people about what here view is on oil ur oil ur going to get alot of different answers... oil is oil

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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 5LEEPERISAH23I
oil is oil
There are better oils than others, so while yes, "oil is oil" theres also good oil, and oil thats not as good, and I dont know about you, but i'd rather spend the money on good oil, making sure my investment is safe.
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 5LEEPERISAH23I
I have a FP Black stock motor, I run royal purple 10w-30. Have been running it for 10,000 + miles no problem..

and if you ask 200 people about what here view is on oil ur oil ur going to get alot of different answers... oil is oil
I must say it , ive been eating burgers for a while now and i have slight colesterol. saying that, so and so its been running X brand oil for 10,000 K proves little.

On the other hand, the reason for this thread is so when you ask 200 people they can narrow down the best oils out there and not have 200 different opinnions,,, and i don't have to mention the top notch oils that are out there because i think the members are becoming more educated on what oil they should use lately with this thread and one other thread that i can recall.
Very good data has been shared from many folks, Ted B, myself, FP, Mobil, that should help you guys narrow it down.
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