New BW EFR Turbo Thread
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Thanks for singling me out with incorrect information........
Please go back and read my post again. I mentioned the Indy housing as an option to a question a gentleman posted about wanting an EWG option. I am not sure how you garnered from reading my post that is the single answer or did I ever compare it to a twin scroll.........
And good on you for denying actual data in regards to a TS housing vs a Single Scroll in regards to spool and area under the curve.......you are more than welcome to rebuke Physics and deny actual DATA if you so please on your own terms
. I mean shoot, the gentleman that responded to your post (which you entirely ignored) had actual data AND dyno graphs to prove the TS actually producing more area under the curve as opposed to the same single scroll option lol! Oh the irony......
Please go back and read my post again. I mentioned the Indy housing as an option to a question a gentleman posted about wanting an EWG option. I am not sure how you garnered from reading my post that is the single answer or did I ever compare it to a twin scroll.........
And good on you for denying actual data in regards to a TS housing vs a Single Scroll in regards to spool and area under the curve.......you are more than welcome to rebuke Physics and deny actual DATA if you so please on your own terms
. I mean shoot, the gentleman that responded to your post (which you entirely ignored) had actual data AND dyno graphs to prove the TS actually producing more area under the curve as opposed to the same single scroll option lol! Oh the irony......Really? Where do you see me denying any data? You were responding to a guy who made a statement about wanting an external gate divided T4 housing. Sorry I didn't get your garbled post, but people (more than just you) were talking about wanting the 7163 in a larger T4 divided housing and/or an external gate T4 divided housing. All I'm saying is that even if BW made such a housing, it would probably perform marginally better than the v-band or divided housings that are currently available.
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None the higher flow pumps available at that time, Aeromotive, DeatchWerks, W400 (non-E85 older) were able to provide any more fuel than a punched W255. This was on an otherwise 100% stock supply system including wiring. The issue is that the restriction from the fuel supply line causes so much additional pressure at the pump that the pressure relief valve in the pump activates. I think the new HP W450 (E85 version) could actually supply more fuel in a drop-in application. However, I think the amp draw would be enough to toast the fuel pump fuse and substantially heat up the factory wiring.
This is the pump data I was looking at when I changed out from the 255 to 340 knowing I'll never go over what I'm already at since power band is critical to me and 300tq @ low rpm. Has this been shown to be wrong or did it come out later than your investigations?
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Really? Where do you see me denying any data? You were responding to a guy who made a statement about wanting an external gate divided T4 housing. Sorry I didn't get your garbled post, but people (more than just you) were talking about wanting the 7163 in a larger T4 divided housing and/or an external gate T4 divided housing. All I'm saying is that even if BW made such a housing, it would probably perform marginally better than the v-band or divided housings that are currently available.
More power to you buddy
BW offers a T4 twin scroll EWG for the 7064, 7670, 8374, and 9174. But for some reason decided not to offer it on the 7163
If you are going to drop $5K+ on a turbo kit, why sacrifice anything.
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From: Mattawan, MI
They don't offer it for any B1 frame turbo.
Buy the supercore and the internal gate housing minus canister, weld the gate shut, and run two external gates off the housing. That should reduce emap a bit and get it into the same range as the v-band housing at max effort. You'll also have maximum control of the gates and can use as many-a-port solenoid as you'd like.
I agree that it would be lovely if they offered us a smorgesboard of housing options, but I don't think the 7163 needs them IMHO.
Buy the supercore and the internal gate housing minus canister, weld the gate shut, and run two external gates off the housing. That should reduce emap a bit and get it into the same range as the v-band housing at max effort. You'll also have maximum control of the gates and can use as many-a-port solenoid as you'd like.
I agree that it would be lovely if they offered us a smorgesboard of housing options, but I don't think the 7163 needs them IMHO.
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http://realstreetperformance.com/Fue...ison-Test.html
This is the pump data I was looking at when I changed out from the 255 to 340 knowing I'll never go over what I'm already at since power band is critical to me and 300tq @ low rpm. Has this been shown to be wrong or did it come out later than your investigations?
This is the pump data I was looking at when I changed out from the 255 to 340 knowing I'll never go over what I'm already at since power band is critical to me and 300tq @ low rpm. Has this been shown to be wrong or did it come out later than your investigations?
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ve...mp-wiring.html
I am not a fan of welding shut the IWG (bye bye warranty).
I am kinda waiting to see if BW brings the quick spool valve housings to market http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=273897
QSV 8374 would be amazing.
I am kinda waiting to see if BW brings the quick spool valve housings to market http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=273897
QSV 8374 would be amazing.
So picked up a walbro 450. Going to put it in today. Then I'm heading back to the dyno
Friday. If need be, I can lower the base fuel pressure to keep the pump happy as
I have way more injector then I need with the 2150s. I know lowing base fuel pressure on e85 works when using large injectors. On my gvr4 I made 562/484 on a single 255 with a rewire and 1600cc injectors.
Friday. If need be, I can lower the base fuel pressure to keep the pump happy as
I have way more injector then I need with the 2150s. I know lowing base fuel pressure on e85 works when using large injectors. On my gvr4 I made 562/484 on a single 255 with a rewire and 1600cc injectors.
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So picked up a walbro 450. Going to put it in today. Then I'm heading back to the dyno
Friday. If need be, I can lower the base fuel pressure to keep the pump happy as
I have way more injector then I need with the 2150s. I know lowing base fuel pressure on e85 works when using large injectors. On my gvr4 I made 562/484 on a single 255 with a rewire and 1600cc injectors.
Friday. If need be, I can lower the base fuel pressure to keep the pump happy as
I have way more injector then I need with the 2150s. I know lowing base fuel pressure on e85 works when using large injectors. On my gvr4 I made 562/484 on a single 255 with a rewire and 1600cc injectors.
