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Old May 4, 2012 | 01:21 PM
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Excuse me for not paying attention, but can you adapt the transmission to have paddle shifters and be manually shifted?
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Old May 4, 2012 | 01:52 PM
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Yes. Er did mention that while db mentioned no interest.
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Old May 4, 2012 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by R/TErnie
Excuse me for not paying attention, but can you adapt the transmission to have paddle shifters and be manually shifted?
Trans is electronic past drive...cake once we got the trans control sorted initially. The V2 Magic box is currently being bench tested and has a gear indicator integrated into it. Manual mode is obviously already sorted, Drive, Paddle shifter will be added in as well.
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Old May 4, 2012 | 02:09 PM
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That sounds magical... especially concerning the idea we discuss this morning.
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Old May 4, 2012 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by R/TErnie
That sounds magical... especially concerning the idea we discuss this morning.
Werd. Watched an A/O GTR get its poop pushed in by 2 different UGR cars. Hard battle on that front. 5.2L to 3.8L even if its about the same power makes a difference and then there is the aero....
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Old May 4, 2012 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnBradley
Trans is electronic past drive...cake once we got the trans control sorted initially. The V2 Magic box is currently being bench tested and has a gear indicator integrated into it. Manual mode is obviously already sorted, Drive, Paddle shifter will be added in as well.

As an Evo 7 GTA owner here in the UK, I am waiting for a TCU to help me get beyond the factory limitations so this is keeping me up at nights. Let me know once you have a product
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Old May 4, 2012 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by R/TErnie
Excuse me for not paying attention, but can you adapt the transmission to have paddle shifters and be manually shifted?
No sir, I agreed with Aaron at English I would not try to touch that type of market. From day one I only wanted a manually shifted trans, which is what they ended up going to, at least for now. A ratchet shifter for up and down shifting though we will offer.
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Old May 4, 2012 | 04:39 PM
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Werd. Watched an A/O GTR get its poop pushed in by 2 different UGR cars. Hard battle on that front. 5.2L to 3.8L even if its about the same power makes a difference and then there is the aero....
I see NO problem with an EVO crushing the GTR or Lambo's in the 1/4 mile after this trans stuff is sorted. Think about the gains the DSM's have made from a 5 speed to the auto, typically .5 seconds. That would put a car like the Bish in the 8.50-8.60 range, with the new DR's from M&H, who knows what it would 60' but I'm guessing it will still run some 1.40's. This is going to be a true game changer for the EVO's.
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Old May 4, 2012 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Babylon6
As an Evo 7 GTA owner here in the UK, I am waiting for a TCU to help me get beyond the factory limitations so this is keeping me up at nights. Let me know once you have a product
Best thing for you to do is switch the car over to what we (English or BR) are doing and forget the TCU and factory electronics.
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Old May 4, 2012 | 06:43 PM
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I love this! maybe when i get tired of dealing with clutch and tranny issue i'll make the jump over. i've been following this since the thread started. i'm assuming with all the new components and what not this will be a bit more the orginal estimate of 5k? regardless, still AWESOME!!
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Old May 4, 2012 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by David Buschur
I see NO problem with an EVO crushing the GTR or Lambo's in the 1/4 mile after this trans stuff is sorted. Think about the gains the DSM's have made from a 5 speed to the auto, typically .5 seconds. That would put a car like the Bish in the 8.50-8.60 range, with the new DR's from M&H, who knows what it would 60' but I'm guessing it will still run some 1.40's. This is going to be a true game changer for the EVO's.
Yes on the 1/4 it will be interesting to see the Evo take on the gtrs or lambos but on the highway it would be tough... but outperforming cars at that caliber is priceless imo...
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Old May 5, 2012 | 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by David Buschur
Best thing for you to do is switch the car over to what we (English or BR) are doing and forget the TCU and factory electronics.
Reached that conclusion last night David. Are you in a position to outline what is involved in converting? Looking forward to a price.
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Old May 5, 2012 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 4g63evoeight
I love this! maybe when i get tired of dealing with clutch and tranny issue i'll make the jump over. i've been following this since the thread started. i'm assuming with all the new components and what not this will be a bit more the orginal estimate of 5k? regardless, still AWESOME!!
Having been through 5 Tiltons, 2 Exedy triples, 1 ATS triple, 4 trans, 2 rear diffs, and 1 TC...yeah, I've had enough. This solution will be a God send!
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Old May 7, 2012 | 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 4g63evoeight
I love this! maybe when i get tired of dealing with clutch and tranny issue i'll make the jump over. i've been following this since the thread started. i'm assuming with all the new components and what not this will be a bit more the orginal estimate of 5k? regardless, still AWESOME!!
Correct on the pricing. There is no way we can produce this for the $5,000 original estimate. First trying to find core transmissions is very difficult, price on them is nearly 3 times what the other core costs. Then there is a quite a list of parts that need to be bought from there. The guys who are really serious and are on my waiting list right now for a trans I have told the entire kit is going to be about $7,000. If it holds up and works and give you a consistent fast EVO you can actually race, it's still a bargain.

We built a new FMIC and upper i/c pipe kit for the cars to work better with this "auto" trans. It will be optional, any FMIC will work but the upper i/c pipe has to be rebuilt on nearly all the kits I can picture using in my head.
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Old May 7, 2012 | 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by rzs91
Yes on the 1/4 it will be interesting to see the Evo take on the gtrs or lambos but on the highway it would be tough... but outperforming cars at that caliber is priceless imo...
ET wise the EVO should destroy those cars, even the 177 mph trap speed Lambo's BUT he will be busting your *** shortly after the 1/4 is up! haha I figure the trap speeds on the EVO as a whole will drop compared to the 5 speed trap speeds but ET should improve nicely, .5 seconds like the DSM's? That's hard to say, sure would be nice though!
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