Bad Bish, the next generation-introducing the clutchless 4 speed.
Thanks for the support fellas.
Yeah, we have been thinking it was in the controller for quite a few days now. It's odd because this trans worked good at first, we had a perfect 1st, 2nd and then 3rd on default and Reverse worked. We have gone through pulling the entire trans out numerous times and now experimenting with valve bodies. "I" finally gave up and told my friend Dave, "Buddy, I am done, we need someone smarter than everyone else involved so far. Let's just put it back how it was when it had 1, 2, "3" and Reverse and then I am going to contact someone else and go with my other plan.........so we pulled the pan and WTF, one of the pistons fell out into the pan. AWESOME! So we thought. Pulled the valve body, figured out why it came out, fixed it, reinstalled it and still wasn't right. Pulled the valve body again, put the original back in and it acted exactly like the valve body we had just pulled out. DAMN IT!!!!!!! So now the trans was back to original but did not have the 1,2,3,R. It just made no sense what-so-ever. We started discussing what could possibly be wrong and I decided to pull the wiring harness apart to the "Magic Box" (that's what Andrew calls his shift box) to see if the wiring was good, if the wiring had been modified by Kevin or what. Dave was holding the control box, after we had taken the ground off the battery and kept commenting how "hot" it felt. I told him, "Andrew told me it gets hot, it's OK." He says, "Man it really hot, I can't believe it is suppose to be like this." In the meantime I was unwrapping the harness. We see nothing wrong with the wires and decide to look inside to see if we can figure out what wires were added after Andrew built the box by Kevin............Dave sees the actual cover is MELTED! Not good. I then see one of the resistors is melted and completely dislodged from the circuit board, for sure not good.
So, I have been trying to contact Andrew for a few days to get a replacement box sent over. I have a feeling as soon as we plug it in, we are going to be good to go. The frustration, anger and flat out disgust along with pulling the trans about 5 times and the valve body probably no less than 10 times in the last week all because maybe we have a box that was bad.........oh boy. It will certainly be a relief though.
Also, the converter in the car just seems to be bad ***. In the past we have not been able to get any of the auto stuff (RWD 4G63's) over 2500 rpm'ish without nitrous. The first trans we had in this we foot braked to almost 4,000 rpm before it exploded the trans. Yesterday I foot braked the car to 3,000 rpm and it was climbing nicely, because the trans isn't right I didn't want to push to hard and just let the brake go and floored it, the car launched REAL nice. I have such high hopes for this.
Yeah, we have been thinking it was in the controller for quite a few days now. It's odd because this trans worked good at first, we had a perfect 1st, 2nd and then 3rd on default and Reverse worked. We have gone through pulling the entire trans out numerous times and now experimenting with valve bodies. "I" finally gave up and told my friend Dave, "Buddy, I am done, we need someone smarter than everyone else involved so far. Let's just put it back how it was when it had 1, 2, "3" and Reverse and then I am going to contact someone else and go with my other plan.........so we pulled the pan and WTF, one of the pistons fell out into the pan. AWESOME! So we thought. Pulled the valve body, figured out why it came out, fixed it, reinstalled it and still wasn't right. Pulled the valve body again, put the original back in and it acted exactly like the valve body we had just pulled out. DAMN IT!!!!!!! So now the trans was back to original but did not have the 1,2,3,R. It just made no sense what-so-ever. We started discussing what could possibly be wrong and I decided to pull the wiring harness apart to the "Magic Box" (that's what Andrew calls his shift box) to see if the wiring was good, if the wiring had been modified by Kevin or what. Dave was holding the control box, after we had taken the ground off the battery and kept commenting how "hot" it felt. I told him, "Andrew told me it gets hot, it's OK." He says, "Man it really hot, I can't believe it is suppose to be like this." In the meantime I was unwrapping the harness. We see nothing wrong with the wires and decide to look inside to see if we can figure out what wires were added after Andrew built the box by Kevin............Dave sees the actual cover is MELTED! Not good. I then see one of the resistors is melted and completely dislodged from the circuit board, for sure not good.
So, I have been trying to contact Andrew for a few days to get a replacement box sent over. I have a feeling as soon as we plug it in, we are going to be good to go. The frustration, anger and flat out disgust along with pulling the trans about 5 times and the valve body probably no less than 10 times in the last week all because maybe we have a box that was bad.........oh boy. It will certainly be a relief though.
Also, the converter in the car just seems to be bad ***. In the past we have not been able to get any of the auto stuff (RWD 4G63's) over 2500 rpm'ish without nitrous. The first trans we had in this we foot braked to almost 4,000 rpm before it exploded the trans. Yesterday I foot braked the car to 3,000 rpm and it was climbing nicely, because the trans isn't right I didn't want to push to hard and just let the brake go and floored it, the car launched REAL nice. I have such high hopes for this.
can't wait to see a video of this launch. What do you think the highest rpm you are going to be able to launch once all said and done?
I'm not sure to be honest, I only need about 4,000 rpm I think to really launch the car HARD. IT will make 15 psi or so at that RPM I think. I don't see a problem hitting that on just the engine and foot brake.
I haven't posted on EvoM for a very long time. I came to see what was new over in the Evo community. Epic thread, great read! Keep up the hard work Dave.
I would love to have a high HP auto Evo. Talk about making some money on the STREET
I would love to have a high HP auto Evo. Talk about making some money on the STREET
Dave,
Keep it the good work . I really believe you are almost there. I will be checking back to see what happens when you get the new controller. Auto box with turbo has always been a great combo in fact it was preferred 20-30 years ago because you could spool up faster and hold boost on the line.
To all readers, Dave is one of the very few who innovates and creates.. I have bought items from him such as his rear under panels ( got one of the very first ones for the VIII ) and will continue to do so.
Go for it
Keep it the good work . I really believe you are almost there. I will be checking back to see what happens when you get the new controller. Auto box with turbo has always been a great combo in fact it was preferred 20-30 years ago because you could spool up faster and hold boost on the line.
To all readers, Dave is one of the very few who innovates and creates.. I have bought items from him such as his rear under panels ( got one of the very first ones for the VIII ) and will continue to do so.
Go for it
Thanks everyone. I have my request in to Andrew for the new controller. Today we started on the maroon 1g auto project I picked up. Converting from the five speed to auto and building a header. Got all the old stuff out and starting on the new.
will your 1g drag car be ready? or do you plan to have 2 DSM's and the RS
The 1g drag car took way to long at Gary's. It is at the painters now and he was in the hospital......it's not looking good. This maroon car I bought just to make go 9's and then sell after the Shootout, it shohld be good to go. The plan is.to have 2 DSM's and the EVO ready though!