14610 and 14459 have the same threading
59 just shorter
10 thinner and a lil longer which still does not pose a threat
10 has a higher bypass pressure

 

I just checked Amazon again and got the same results as I stated before. Then I realized that you have an IX so I switched the year from 05 to 06 which as we now doesnt make a difference, and I found the results that you stated.

Which one would you choose and why?

 

Purolators site says 10 for the 8 and 59 for the 9
In the racing world, they generally use filters with a higher bypass pressure
I have always used the 10 and 10 equivalent in my 8 whether it be Purolator, Mann or Wix.

 

thanks, I wonder why they have a different filter for the VIII and IX?

 

lol email Purolator
Newer Hondas use the 10 spec now having moved away from 59 for many yrs

 

PL14610: 14-18 psi
PL14459: 12-15 psi

 

Fred- are you using the 10 or the 59 and what made you choose one model over the other?

 

From what I have seen on application charts for these filters they seem to list the tall,skinny one for the 4g63 and short fatter one for the 4b11t. Other places list the short fatter one for the 4g63 as well because they are interchangeable so its just a matter of which one you want to use I guess.

 

Personally, I would take the one with the higher by-pass pressure.

 

Interesting, I never noticed that. I imagined they would both fit so it's just a matter of which one is better for the 4g63, in my case that is. It appears that people are suggesting that a higher bypass valve pressure is preferred, but I need to do some research to see why that is the case. I know it was discussed in this thread and there were some debate as to its importance and how it actually works and what not but I will look into that some more.

From what you guys are saying the tall skinny one has a higher bypass pressure, however the downside is that it will sit a little bit lower to the ground. Now my car isn't slammed and I dont anticipate ever bottoming it out but for me the further from the ground the filter is the better so I need to determine if the benefits outweigh the risks.

 

Realistically, you should get the filter with the best filtration, then highest by-pass pressure, followed by largest surface area.

Without having the measurements of the other filter in question, I have no way of knowing the surface area unless it's listed on the Purolator site.

 

I've always used either Mobil 1 or Amsoil filters on my car, and the engine was damn freaking clean when I took it apart at 147k. Like the Puralator, Mobil has 2 sizes. M1-108 is shorter than M1-110, but that both fit our cars. I've always ran the shorter version because I don't like the idea for the filter being closer to the ground, although I've never really test to see if it's that big of a difference to ground clearance. As for Amsoil, they recently changed the filter to a smaller version. I've previously like the enormity of the Amsoil Ea filter due to the sheer size, or I guess surface area of the filtration.

Back in my old Honda days, I read alot on filters, and came acoss one test that showed Purator's Pure one was only second to the Mobil filters. The reason was that the Purolator's synthetic filter paper was a bit more restictive, which we know isn't good when it comes to lubrication. In the end, I've been happy with my two filter choices.

I can post pics of my motor is anyone is curious to see what 147k miles daily driving, autox, and track days looks like with proper oil and filtration.

 

Thank you for the information and prioritizing the different attributes of the filters. That makes perfect logical sense in my mind. Ill will take a look on their website and see if it mentions anything about the surface area of the PL14610 or even give tech support a shot. If all else fails I could easily calculate the volume of the two filters and assume the filter is arranged the same, thus the filter with greater volume would likely have the greater surface area.

 

Chu, what's going on buddy?

You wouldnt happen to have a link to that test would you? According to this test, the Mobil One filter wasnt anything special.

 

^ Not much man, you?

It's been almost a decade since I read that test, so I'm not sure where to even begin looking for it. Maybe it's old and outdated; I haven't looked into the lastest techonology. But as I said, I've been happy with my filter choice.

Here's a pic of the head with 147k on it. Completely stock head, with the exception of the GSC S1 cams, which has approximately 80k on them.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/13347078@N06/7808809190/http://www.flickr.com/photos/13347078@N06/7808809190/ by http://www.flickr.com/people/13347078@N06/, on Flickr