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Old Jun 17, 2016 | 06:32 AM
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You read my mind! The last time they did it, I didn't need a motor. If those motors had been around after mine blew I absolutely 100% would have bought one. A stock motor is more than enough for the power I'm trying to make. All I want is a full bolt on car with a stock turbo. 400-450whp (dynojet) is all I want. Whatever I could push safely out of the stock turbo. Even if it's only 360-380whp, that would still be more than enough for me. If they ever do another sale on those motors, I'm definitely picking one up. I'd give anything for a fully built brand new bone stock motor right now.

I think that's what pisses me off the most about this. I never had any lofty goals for the simple fact that I know it's risky when you start trying to build a reliable high hp motor, and I didn't want to deal with the headaches. My motto was overbuild, then under tune, and that STILL didn't work because of the way the work was done. So now I'm picking up the pieces, and trying to get this thing reliable and ready to race again.
I have some questions about that..

Were these complete long blocks?
Where were you finding these?
How much were they?
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Old Jun 17, 2016 | 07:39 AM
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It's really a matter of using the right shop if you want aftermarket motor builds to last. People that have issues chose (likely through no fault of their own) a third grader to put their motor together. Engines aren't a black art, you just have to do it right.
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Old Jun 17, 2016 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by letsgetthisdone
It's really a matter of using the right shop if you want aftermarket motor builds to last. People that have issues chose (likely through no fault of their own) a third grader to put their motor together. Engines aren't a black art, you just have to do it right.
True. I just choose to have my built by Mitsubishi The odds of anything not being right are much more in my favor LOL.
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Old Jun 17, 2016 | 11:31 AM
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I wouldn't trust the OEM rod bolts for sustained track use. I have ARP rod bolts in my stock rods. Was a pain in the *** to do, but well worth the safety margin..
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Old Jun 17, 2016 | 12:11 PM
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I wouldn't trust the OEM rod bolts for sustained track use. I have ARP rod bolts in my stock rods. Was a pain in the *** to do, but well worth the safety margin..
Not so bad. At least things would still go back they way it came.
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Old Jun 17, 2016 | 01:01 PM
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Are the factory ones pressed in or something?
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Old Jun 17, 2016 | 01:20 PM
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Yea, you have to hold the rod and hit them out with a hammer. Was not a fun job...lol
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Old Jun 20, 2016 | 07:54 AM
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Eww, did you do that while the piston/rod was still in the block!?
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Old Jun 20, 2016 | 08:38 AM
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Yeah. Spun in new rod bearings and checked oil clearance with plasti-gauge while I was there.

Last edited by letsgetthisdone; Jun 20, 2016 at 09:21 AM.
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Old Jun 21, 2016 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by nollij
Next time Mitsu does a Crate motor sale, you should just pick one up.
How much do the crate motors go for?
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Old Jun 22, 2016 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by youra6
How much do the crate motors go for?
Few years ago our shop cost was $5600 for a complete long block. Short block with rotating assembly was $2000 and bare block was $1500. That was through the shop I was working at, the dealer was in Schaumburg IL.
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Old Jun 22, 2016 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by youra6
How much do the crate motors go for?
The cheapest I saw the full stock crate motors for was like $5-6000. SUPER cheap. I wish I could have gone that route.
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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 07:53 PM
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i regret having my supercharged s2000 sold for too cheap under value.

i regret selling it badly. lol

i regret buying a half *** rebuilt evo
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Old Jul 27, 2016 | 11:37 AM
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I'm thinking that I should be able to keep my internals stock. I know do not want over 400 hp and 400 tq. Reliable
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Old Aug 1, 2016 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by zbestevors
I'm thinking that I should be able to keep my internals stock. I know do not want over 400 hp and 400 tq. Reliable
You'll be good under 400 Ft. Lbs. of torque. That's what kills the stock rods.
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