Originally Posted by Kwman

'Cause I don't have sex with little boys.

Originally Posted by markeddy

Guys,

Alot of you are probably going to jump on the wagon and run me down but here goes.

I have owned 2 Evos in the last 2 years a 2005 Graphite Gray MR and then I traded that in for a 2005 Apex Silver GSR w/SSL. Loved both cars, problem is Subaru came out with the new 2007 STi Limited in Urban Gray. So I have decided to trade in my 2005 GSR w/SSL for a new 2007 Limited STi in Urban Gray and will take delivery in a couple of weeks.

I have read this thread from beginning to end because I love my EVO a TON and still have seconds thoughts about trading it in for ALOT of reasons, especially when hearing about the lack of sharp steering and mod friendliness of the STi vs. the EVO -

1. 4G63 is alot easier to work on, especially when doing plug wires/plug changes, engine seems a TON more accessible.

2. Easier to break down and install modifications, more mod friendly.

3. Seems like more shops here locally in Minnesota are specialized in the 4g63 platform.

4. Wife complaining about me have a 4th new car in the last 5 years <--- this I can totally understand.

I been doing alot of reading on NASIOC and IWSTI and a bunch of other forums because I am trying to get a better understanding of what I am going to be moving over to. I have been hearing issues like ECUTek not unmarrying from the ECU properly and hesitation issues, etc. from those forums on the 2007.

So I have some reservation about moving over to the STi on that end of things. However, each car can be finicky I guess and it's just a matter of doing enough research to determine what proper path to go...seem CobbTuning is the way to go on the STi side and with the Access Port 2 coming out things should be much better, and there are alot of other things with the 2007 STi Limited that not only sound really encouraging as far as tuning.

The 2007 Limited has really grown on me and I really like extra ammenities that go along with it including the toned down appearance which is something my wife can enjoy driving also with our 2 kids, plus I have never owned an STi before so now I can say I have been on both sides of the spectrum.

These are just honest observations and my opinion, any comments are appreciated as long as they are respectful. Call me a traitor...or that I have moved over to the dark side...I don't care, I am still going to hang out with all my buddies on EvoMN.net and go to events and outings with them, I will never regret owning the EVO and will certainly not regret getting the Limited.

Originally Posted by markeddy

I will be taking delivery in two weeks. Thanks for all the comments Sinister I appreciate them.

I am glad to hear the newer STi's are on par with the Evo.

I will post some pics once I get it.

I humbly have to say that I am lucky that I will have had the opportunity to own both at one point in time!

Originally Posted by vitoal18t

Look I am shopping for the car. Really want to buy an Evo.

Just to give another "kid on the block" a chance I wanted to ask you guys why didn't you buy a Subaru STI? I am sure there is a minority of people on this forum who thought of getting an STI before ending up in an EVO. I know you all love your cars and I DO realize I am on the EVO forum, so no flames please.

I plan to do a lot of track events. I believe EVO RS is one of those few cars you can drive onto the race track straight from the showroom floor. (maybe upgrading tires and brake pads and brake fluid).

I think STI:

a). Heavier
b). Lazy Steering
c). Softer Suspension
d). Less balanced chassis
e). not as sophisticate center diff

What else? If you hate the STIs I guess now is the time. I really appriciate your input.

Thank you!

Originally Posted by Bigtim

Before I bought my IX, I tried to go for an 06 sti but the dealer 34,000 otd and refused to drop from it.

Originally Posted by Sinister Subaru

As far as forums go, NUTSAC (NASIOC) is pretty much nothing more than a bunch of people talking smack on eachother, but there are a few knowledgeable people over there. I've PERSONALLY found that the best sites are www.subytech.com or www.wrxtuners.com. They're both great, and pretty much free of any sorts of flames and arguments. www.IWSTI.com is pretty much a fanboy site, and if you ever mention another car being faster than an STi/STI, you will be banned. Consider yourself forewarned.

Originally Posted by Geese1

Might also want to look into Club WRX. Although it is a Subaru site, the majority of people there are just performance car enthusiasts in general, and equally appreciate all fast cars.

Heck, quite a few people who post regularly don't even own Subarus - we've got Evo owners, 'Vette owners, as well as people with 350 Zs, GTOs, Mustangs, etc.

Really cool site, and one I highly recommend.

Originally Posted by Sinister Subaru

While I find that to sound funny, and even get a funny visual of the douche, putting someone's life in danger is a pretty assh*lish thing to do.

However, in your defense, if he wasn't being a douche, he wouldn't have found himself sailing for the grass in the first place.

You get 2 points for douchebaggery. He gets 3, but only because he bought a pos.

Originally Posted by andysoo8284

Imagine how bad the douchebaggery was to put me in a position to do something like that. I'm usually the kind of guy that let's things go and not react when people try to race me, but this guy went above and beyond what's a safe way to make someone race. I reacted out of anger and hatred and I do regret doing it, but damn it felt good at that time.

Now back on topic. I would love to own both the STi and Evo but went this way because I've always wanted an Evo. You know how kids yell out they want a Ferrari or Lambo? I said I wanted an Evo. Everyone looked at me like "wtf" because they had no idea what it was at that time.

Originally Posted by andysoo8284

I was going in order from least to most expensive. The Evo was the first on my "must have" list. Second (now) is a M5. Third is a Porsche 911 Turbo. Fourth is a Ferrari F430 Spyer. Fifth is a Lamborghini Murcielago.

I would like to own a Sinister Subaru but I think it'll be too expensive.

Originally Posted by andysoo8284

That's not a Sinister Subaru. That's an eBay Subaru. At least with the Sinister Subaru I can make it do dishes, laundry, do other cleaning around the house, run errands, etc. Unfortunately I'm looking at probably around eleventy billion dollars for that one.