Lancer Evolution XI goes hybrid [merge]
Evolved Member
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 606
Likes: 14
From: Philly
I heard it was suppose to be alot lighter than the X. I'm glad they are at least working on keeping the turbo the initial article stated they were going to make it a complete hybrid without a turbocharger. I'm eager to see what they are doing more than likely ill be in the used car market for another evo preferably a 9
Evolved Member
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 2,815
Likes: 24
From: Davidson, NC
I heard it was suppose to be alot lighter than the X. I'm glad they are at least working on keeping the turbo the initial article stated they were going to make it a complete hybrid without a turbocharger. I'm eager to see what they are doing more than likely ill be in the used car market for another evo preferably a 9
reminds me of the concept RA:
"The stunning Mitsubishi Concept-RA, revealed for the first time at the 2008 Detroit Motor Show, proves that thrilling performance and environmental responsibility can exist together in one package. Clean diesel power, low emissions and recyclable building materials combine with our passion for dynamic driving to create a vehicle that does the right thing on the road, and for the planet.
*
*
Design*
*
Two-seater, with transversely mounted engine at the front.
Broad, muscular wheel arches house 21-inch wheels.
Exposed engine cover highlights car's high output, efficient, clean diesel engine design.
Inverted-slant nose and grille fascia reinforce Mitsubishi Motors' new design identity.
Deep red exterior graphically accentuates the coupe's fluid, muscular body lines, and offsets matt black engine hood.
Cockpit's wraparound control layout uses minimal visual instrumentation and optimises the switch and control layout, allowing driver to concentrate fully on driving.
*
*Body Structure*
*
New body structure uses aluminium space frame made from extruded aluminium sections and die-cast aluminium members.
Bonnet, wings and other body panels made from high impact-resistance and easily recyclable plastic resin.
Result is improved crashworthiness and lower vehicle weight.
Powertrain*
*
Powered by a new 2.2 litre 4-cylinder DOHC 16-valve turbodiesel engine with MIVEC continuously variable valve timing control.
Delivers high efficiency with low emissions.
Features piezoelectric injector common-rail direct fuel injection that allows a lower compression ratio.
VD (Variable Diffuser)/VG (Variable Geometry) turbocharger helps clean diesel unit deliver a maximum output of 150 kW (204 PS) and maximum torque of 420 Nm (42.8 kg-m).
Exciting driving manners with great fuel efficiency.
*
Super All Wheel Control (S-AWC)*
*
S-AWC driveline adds Active Steering and Active Damping control to the Active Center Differential, Active Yaw Control, Sport Antilock Brake System, Active Stability Control component systems that comprise the system used on Lancer Evolution.
S-AWC integrally manages all of these systems for far greater levels of control over drive torque and braking.
Traction, cornering and vehicle stability are therefore all improved."
"The stunning Mitsubishi Concept-RA, revealed for the first time at the 2008 Detroit Motor Show, proves that thrilling performance and environmental responsibility can exist together in one package. Clean diesel power, low emissions and recyclable building materials combine with our passion for dynamic driving to create a vehicle that does the right thing on the road, and for the planet.
*
*
Design*
*
Two-seater, with transversely mounted engine at the front.
Broad, muscular wheel arches house 21-inch wheels.
Exposed engine cover highlights car's high output, efficient, clean diesel engine design.
Inverted-slant nose and grille fascia reinforce Mitsubishi Motors' new design identity.
Deep red exterior graphically accentuates the coupe's fluid, muscular body lines, and offsets matt black engine hood.
Cockpit's wraparound control layout uses minimal visual instrumentation and optimises the switch and control layout, allowing driver to concentrate fully on driving.
*
*Body Structure*
*
New body structure uses aluminium space frame made from extruded aluminium sections and die-cast aluminium members.
Bonnet, wings and other body panels made from high impact-resistance and easily recyclable plastic resin.
Result is improved crashworthiness and lower vehicle weight.
Powertrain*
*
Powered by a new 2.2 litre 4-cylinder DOHC 16-valve turbodiesel engine with MIVEC continuously variable valve timing control.
Delivers high efficiency with low emissions.
Features piezoelectric injector common-rail direct fuel injection that allows a lower compression ratio.
VD (Variable Diffuser)/VG (Variable Geometry) turbocharger helps clean diesel unit deliver a maximum output of 150 kW (204 PS) and maximum torque of 420 Nm (42.8 kg-m).
Exciting driving manners with great fuel efficiency.
*
Super All Wheel Control (S-AWC)*
*
S-AWC driveline adds Active Steering and Active Damping control to the Active Center Differential, Active Yaw Control, Sport Antilock Brake System, Active Stability Control component systems that comprise the system used on Lancer Evolution.
S-AWC integrally manages all of these systems for far greater levels of control over drive torque and braking.
Traction, cornering and vehicle stability are therefore all improved."
what I don't get is, Mitsubishi is the underdog of Car Manufacturers right now, they're doing bad, pretty much everywhere... They've been re-doing themselves and their cars since 2006 when the Prototype X was announced... they have a long way to go, there's a lot of stuff to fix, a lot:
1 - They need a small B segment car, they need the UK-version Colt here, to compete with the Versa, Fit, Yaris.
2 - They need a 5th Gen. Eclipse, and it needs a fwd for the average Joe and an AWD+turbocharged for the rest of us. "TC-SST'ing" all their cars will allow them to develop and service this transmission more and it will eventually lower its price...
3 - They need to kill the galant, kill it with fire, and let it come back from the ashes (like a Phoenix, lol) as a brand-new galant with new styling, new drivetrain, awd for god sake, and maybe tc-sst.
4 - AWD on all the cars, all of them, as an option
5 - They need a pick-up... as long as there's people that use pick-ups for work, they need a pickup that can compete.
once all that is done, and they've reached their goal of selling 100,000 cars yearly here on USA, then they can go ahead and:
6 - do some crazy R&D on the Evo and take it to the next level.
7 - Prove that their icon car can hold its own... talk all you want about it, advertise it, boast on it, brag about it, advertise, even lie about it like most car makers, say that it is better than all the other cars and specify why, throw it in the 'Ring and post times, break records, bring FQ-versions to US... jesus christ, why can't they do all of this????
7 - Work on a 3KGT rebirth... do your ES, GTS, Ralliart versions of all your cars and maybe even "Evolution" versions of a Galant, Eclipse and Outlander... again, Evo is just a version of one of their cars... except for the fact that the word "Evo" has a lot of history in itself... but work on a 3KGT rebirth and pit it against the upcoming RX7, the GT-R, the Vette, etc...
is it just me or does Mitsubishi has no idea wtf they're doing? is it just me or do they have some really really smart engineers, and some really, really dumb administration?
it boggles the mind to think a company with so much talent (those working on the VR4s GSX and Evos for the last 3 decades) has such incompetent decision-making morons
1 - They need a small B segment car, they need the UK-version Colt here, to compete with the Versa, Fit, Yaris.
2 - They need a 5th Gen. Eclipse, and it needs a fwd for the average Joe and an AWD+turbocharged for the rest of us. "TC-SST'ing" all their cars will allow them to develop and service this transmission more and it will eventually lower its price...
3 - They need to kill the galant, kill it with fire, and let it come back from the ashes (like a Phoenix, lol) as a brand-new galant with new styling, new drivetrain, awd for god sake, and maybe tc-sst.
4 - AWD on all the cars, all of them, as an option
5 - They need a pick-up... as long as there's people that use pick-ups for work, they need a pickup that can compete.
once all that is done, and they've reached their goal of selling 100,000 cars yearly here on USA, then they can go ahead and:
6 - do some crazy R&D on the Evo and take it to the next level.
7 - Prove that their icon car can hold its own... talk all you want about it, advertise it, boast on it, brag about it, advertise, even lie about it like most car makers, say that it is better than all the other cars and specify why, throw it in the 'Ring and post times, break records, bring FQ-versions to US... jesus christ, why can't they do all of this????
7 - Work on a 3KGT rebirth... do your ES, GTS, Ralliart versions of all your cars and maybe even "Evolution" versions of a Galant, Eclipse and Outlander... again, Evo is just a version of one of their cars... except for the fact that the word "Evo" has a lot of history in itself... but work on a 3KGT rebirth and pit it against the upcoming RX7, the GT-R, the Vette, etc...
is it just me or does Mitsubishi has no idea wtf they're doing? is it just me or do they have some really really smart engineers, and some really, really dumb administration?
it boggles the mind to think a company with so much talent (those working on the VR4s GSX and Evos for the last 3 decades) has such incompetent decision-making morons
http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com.au/...jero/home.aspx
also a turbo diesel pickupcalled the Triton:
http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com.au/...iton/home.aspx
the mitsubishi euro website has a few other pickups and small vehicles, and the Japanese site has tons of weird small vehicles
Last edited by DJ Brett B; Jun 15, 2010 at 07:47 AM.
They need to rack up mpg's throughout the line up since by 2016 every car companys average must equal at least 35mpg am I right? I think its a bold move towards the future and evos of the past will be what muscle cars are today. Back then they had to downsize motor sizes and whatnot till technology caught up providing cars to come back to making big power; I believe this is history repeating itself.
Evolved Member
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 2,815
Likes: 24
From: Davidson, NC
Torque, also called moment or moment of force (see the terminology below), is the tendency of a force to rotate an object about an axis,[1] fulcrum, or pivot. Just as a force is a push or a pull, a torque can be thought of as a twist.
I didn't buy my EVO 9 because it was a socially responsible automobile, I bought it because it was the best bang for your buck, kick you in the teeth, and slap yo mama bad *** ride!!!
Newbie
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 55
Likes: 0
From: Plano, TX
LMFAO!
[QUOTE=awdboosted;8397488]Is Mitsubishi this stupid?? Wow.. Boys and girls welcome to owning a collectible.
Dont bet on that and buy another one for investment! Not that the Evo isn't liked, just practical knowledge. Check Barrett Jackson auction out some time---never a jap car. They even discussed it once and while all other manufacturer enjoy appreciation the jap car market hasn't. I have owned a 69 Datsun roadster full restored, over 20k in it owned 23 years myself and its worth maybe 6.5k on a good day. For those of you wondering this was the converible before the 240z, they made 50k cars over 10 years, only 3k of the one I own. Just no pedigree-- Unless your driving a Toyota 2000gt from '68 but since they made only 250 and even toyota doesn't own a completed one well there you go. Just dont do it as an investment is all I am saying--would be a mistake. Own the Evo because you want too.
Dont bet on that and buy another one for investment! Not that the Evo isn't liked, just practical knowledge. Check Barrett Jackson auction out some time---never a jap car. They even discussed it once and while all other manufacturer enjoy appreciation the jap car market hasn't. I have owned a 69 Datsun roadster full restored, over 20k in it owned 23 years myself and its worth maybe 6.5k on a good day. For those of you wondering this was the converible before the 240z, they made 50k cars over 10 years, only 3k of the one I own. Just no pedigree-- Unless your driving a Toyota 2000gt from '68 but since they made only 250 and even toyota doesn't own a completed one well there you go. Just dont do it as an investment is all I am saying--would be a mistake. Own the Evo because you want too.
Newbie
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
From: St Louis, MO
what I don't get is, Mitsubishi is the underdog of Car Manufacturers right now, they're doing bad, pretty much everywhere... They've been re-doing themselves and their cars since 2006 when the Prototype X was announced... they have a long way to go, there's a lot of stuff to fix, a lot:
1 - They need a small B segment car, they need the UK-version Colt here, to compete with the Versa, Fit, Yaris.
2 - They need a 5th Gen. Eclipse, and it needs a fwd for the average Joe and an AWD+turbocharged for the rest of us. "TC-SST'ing" all their cars will allow them to develop and service this transmission more and it will eventually lower its price...
3 - They need to kill the galant, kill it with fire, and let it come back from the ashes (like a Phoenix, lol) as a brand-new galant with new styling, new drivetrain, awd for god sake, and maybe tc-sst.
4 - AWD on all the cars, all of them, as an option
5 - They need a pick-up... as long as there's people that use pick-ups for work, they need a pickup that can compete.
1 - They need a small B segment car, they need the UK-version Colt here, to compete with the Versa, Fit, Yaris.
2 - They need a 5th Gen. Eclipse, and it needs a fwd for the average Joe and an AWD+turbocharged for the rest of us. "TC-SST'ing" all their cars will allow them to develop and service this transmission more and it will eventually lower its price...
3 - They need to kill the galant, kill it with fire, and let it come back from the ashes (like a Phoenix, lol) as a brand-new galant with new styling, new drivetrain, awd for god sake, and maybe tc-sst.
4 - AWD on all the cars, all of them, as an option
5 - They need a pick-up... as long as there's people that use pick-ups for work, they need a pickup that can compete.
Keep dreaming. All of that is wishful thinking from an Enthusiast standpoint, but the fact of the matter is from a business standpoint MMC just can't afford to do all of that. Now you're right though if they cross parts with other models, much like Nissan's strategy with the VQ series engines, costs will substantially decrease. This would mean 2 or so engine options across the board, perhaps with slight variances, for most if not all of their available US market models, all using similar transmissions and drive trains like your TC-SST suggestion.... Keep in mind though that the MMNA plant doesn't just assemble Mitsubishis.....
I used to drive a Galant and while I so, so very much would have liked to see the 8g Galant VR4 brought Stateside I can see why they simply weren't able to. Bringing in new model lineups stateside and up to US Spec is just far too costly.... You may think that having a North American version of the Galant would have made it easier but they were 2 completely different cars, aside from the 2.5l 6a13TT (drool), the chassis wasn't exactly the same either.. Anyway if they cut the Galant from their lineup, even momentarily, where would they get the money to support all of your suggestions?? That would be cutting out a major leg of their bread and butter...
Anyway back on Topic...
A Turbo Diesel option on next gen Evos would be bad-*** if done right. And if that fails just let AMS give it a good once over LOL
