!!!!! Evo Mr Msrp !!!!!
Originally Posted by dizzigital
Sleezy my ***. We're here to earn a living. For example:
Banana Republic
Dawson Lightweight Chino's
$98 in the Spring
They're now on sale for $29.99
Now, am I supposed to call Banana Republic and tell them they're a sleezy retail store?
LOL.
I wanted a product while it was hot, so I paid for it.
And what, may I ask, do you do for a living? You know where this is going, so get out of the hole while you can.
-Robert
Banana Republic
Dawson Lightweight Chino's
$98 in the Spring
They're now on sale for $29.99
Now, am I supposed to call Banana Republic and tell them they're a sleezy retail store?
LOL.
I wanted a product while it was hot, so I paid for it.
And what, may I ask, do you do for a living? You know where this is going, so get out of the hole while you can.
-Robert
Originally Posted by dizzigital
Sleezy my ***. We're here to earn a living. For example:
Banana Republic
Dawson Lightweight Chino's
$98 in the Spring
They're now on sale for $29.99
Now, am I supposed to call Banana Republic and tell them they're a sleezy retail store?
LOL.
I wanted a product while it was hot, so I paid for it.
And what, may I ask, do you do for a living? You know where this is going, so get out of the hole while you can.
-Robert
Banana Republic
Dawson Lightweight Chino's
$98 in the Spring
They're now on sale for $29.99
Now, am I supposed to call Banana Republic and tell them they're a sleezy retail store?
LOL.
I wanted a product while it was hot, so I paid for it.
And what, may I ask, do you do for a living? You know where this is going, so get out of the hole while you can.
-Robert
As far as what I do for a living I am the VP of Corporate Development for a consulting firm specializing in P&C, Risk Management, Employee Benefits, and Financial Management...I'm also working on my Ph.D, I've passed my comprehensive exams and am now working on my dissertation. I fail to see what this has to do with the discussion but since you asked, what's your pedigree salesguy?
I fail to see how I am losing this argument, and I do not believe you can point to any managerial "best practices" of
to prove me wrong. However, I'm certainly open to the possibility of being schooled by someone who is clearly operating from a superior perspective, so, let the lesson begin Sensai. 
Originally Posted by spiderm
Well, you don't argue very well and are obviously not very good at sales, either, with your post above.
Originally Posted by jasonc32amg
Ok Chief, did banana republic charge MORE than the original sticker? NO...they didn't, they discounted it from sticker after season. The only hole you are digging is your own, you make plenty of a living off of MSRP. Over MSRP is just screwing the customer and taking a short term perspective on profits versus establishing a long term relationship.
As far as what I do for a living I am the VP of Corporate Development for a consulting firm specializing in P&C, Risk Management, Employee Benefits, and Financial Management...I'm also working on my Ph.D, I've passed my comprehensive exams and am now working on my dissertation. I fail to see what this has to do with the discussion but since you asked, what's your pedigree salesguy?
I fail to see how I am losing this argument, and I do not believe you can point to any managerial "best practices" of to prove me wrong. However, I'm certainly open to the possibility of being schooled by someone who is clearly operating from a superior perspective, so, let the lesson begin Sensai.
As far as what I do for a living I am the VP of Corporate Development for a consulting firm specializing in P&C, Risk Management, Employee Benefits, and Financial Management...I'm also working on my Ph.D, I've passed my comprehensive exams and am now working on my dissertation. I fail to see what this has to do with the discussion but since you asked, what's your pedigree salesguy?
I fail to see how I am losing this argument, and I do not believe you can point to any managerial "best practices" of
to prove me wrong. However, I'm certainly open to the possibility of being schooled by someone who is clearly operating from a superior perspective, so, let the lesson begin Sensai. 
Originally Posted by jasonc32amg
Ok Chief, did banana republic charge MORE than the original sticker? NO...they didn't, they discounted it from sticker after season. The only hole you are digging is your own, you make plenty of a living off of MSRP. Over MSRP is just screwing the customer and taking a short term perspective on profits versus establishing a long term relationship.
As far as what I do for a living I am the VP of Corporate Development for a consulting firm specializing in P&C, Risk Management, Employee Benefits, and Financial Management...I'm also working on my Ph.D, I've passed my comprehensive exams and am now working on my dissertation. I failt to see what this has to do with the discussion but since you asked, what's your pedigree salesguy?
I fail to see how I am losing this argument, and I do not belive your can point to any managerial "best practices" of to prove me wrong. However, I'm a certainly open to the possibility of being schooled by someone who is clearly operating from a superior perspective, so, let the lesson begin Sensai.
As far as what I do for a living I am the VP of Corporate Development for a consulting firm specializing in P&C, Risk Management, Employee Benefits, and Financial Management...I'm also working on my Ph.D, I've passed my comprehensive exams and am now working on my dissertation. I failt to see what this has to do with the discussion but since you asked, what's your pedigree salesguy?
I fail to see how I am losing this argument, and I do not belive your can point to any managerial "best practices" of
to prove me wrong. However, I'm a certainly open to the possibility of being schooled by someone who is clearly operating from a superior perspective, so, let the lesson begin Sensai. Wow.... I'm ****ed.
Horrible analogy, I agree. All I can say is that mark-up's are for profit and a closed mouth never gets fed. Same thing in stocks, sell when it's hot and buy when it's not. That has nothing to do with anything, but for some reason popped into the temporal lobe.
Conratulations on your current profession, it looks like you're doing damn well for your current stage in life. Good luck on the Ph.D, too. As for me, all I have is a BA in Psychology then decided to get into the car business.
The $750 over MSRP was a one shot deal, and as I'm sure you can see, I'm selling the MR for MSRP.
I understand what you're saying about establishing long term relationships as well. A nice portion of my business is from referrals, which should plainly show I give good deals and good service all day long.
You should see some of these payoffs customer's bring in. 15 grand on a 1999 sentra with 5 grand down at signing? These are the salespeople you should really be clowning.
I sell one for $750 over MSRP because it was the first one and only one on our lot. That doesn't make me a bad guy. I've never straight ****ed a customer (except for the 26 year old accountant on the black GT Spyder and the 23 year old asian who got the black EVO, but that's all. I give you my word!), that's not my thing. Here's the price, here's the car, good enough deal? Great, let's do it. Few minutes later they're driving home in a new car.
This little debate never should've ignited in the first place. I don't see anything that's changed except for a little perspiration on my forehead. I'm still makin' customers happy on the price and I always have and always will give the best customer service available in the market today. I look forward to giving many EvoM members a great deal at some point in the future.
Robert Evans
Internet Manager
Santa Monica Mitsubishi
Originally Posted by dizzigital
hmmm...
Wow.... I'm ****ed.
Horrible analogy, I agree. All I can say is that mark-up's are for profit and a closed mouth never gets fed. Same thing in stocks, sell when it's hot and buy when it's not. That has nothing to do with anything, but for some reason popped into the temporal lobe.
Conratulations on your current profession, it looks like you're doing damn well for your current stage in life. Good luck on the Ph.D, too. As for me, all I have is a BA in Psychology then decided to get into the car business.
The $750 over MSRP was a one shot deal, and as I'm sure you can see, I'm selling the MR for MSRP.
I understand what you're saying about establishing long term relationships as well. A nice portion of my business is from referrals, which should plainly show I give good deals and good service all day long.
You should see some of these payoffs customer's bring in. 15 grand on a 1999 sentra with 5 grand down at signing? These are the salespeople you should really be clowning.
I sell one for $750 over MSRP because it was the first one and only one on our lot. That doesn't make me a bad guy. I've never straight ****ed a customer (except for the 26 year old accountant on the black GT Spyder and the 23 year old asian who got the black EVO, but that's all. I give you my word!), that's not my thing. Here's the price, here's the car, good enough deal? Great, let's do it. Few minutes later they're driving home in a new car.
This little debate never should've ignited in the first place. I don't see anything that's changed except for a little perspiration on my forehead. I'm still makin' customers happy on the price and I always have and always will give the best customer service available in the market today. I look forward to giving many EvoM members a great deal at some point in the future.
Robert Evans
Internet Manager
Santa Monica Mitsubishi
Wow.... I'm ****ed.
Horrible analogy, I agree. All I can say is that mark-up's are for profit and a closed mouth never gets fed. Same thing in stocks, sell when it's hot and buy when it's not. That has nothing to do with anything, but for some reason popped into the temporal lobe.
Conratulations on your current profession, it looks like you're doing damn well for your current stage in life. Good luck on the Ph.D, too. As for me, all I have is a BA in Psychology then decided to get into the car business.
The $750 over MSRP was a one shot deal, and as I'm sure you can see, I'm selling the MR for MSRP.
I understand what you're saying about establishing long term relationships as well. A nice portion of my business is from referrals, which should plainly show I give good deals and good service all day long.
You should see some of these payoffs customer's bring in. 15 grand on a 1999 sentra with 5 grand down at signing? These are the salespeople you should really be clowning.
I sell one for $750 over MSRP because it was the first one and only one on our lot. That doesn't make me a bad guy. I've never straight ****ed a customer (except for the 26 year old accountant on the black GT Spyder and the 23 year old asian who got the black EVO, but that's all. I give you my word!), that's not my thing. Here's the price, here's the car, good enough deal? Great, let's do it. Few minutes later they're driving home in a new car.
This little debate never should've ignited in the first place. I don't see anything that's changed except for a little perspiration on my forehead. I'm still makin' customers happy on the price and I always have and always will give the best customer service available in the market today. I look forward to giving many EvoM members a great deal at some point in the future.
Robert Evans
Internet Manager
Santa Monica Mitsubishi
I know there are many people on this board who really strap themselves to get an Evo (or STI for that matter) because they share the same passion and it infuriates me that they would be charged over MSRP because of thier passion and wind up being terribly upside-down on the deal should they run into a crisis forcing them to unload the car. Can you imagine having paid $40k for an Evo and selling it today because you lost your job? OUCH
peace
Originally Posted by jasonc32amg
No harm no foul...as you can tell I'm passionate about cars and it wasn't long ago that I'd eat tuna to afford to mod my 5.0 coupe in grad school. It's important to me for consumers to understand that they have the power to negotiate these days.
I know there are many people on this board who really strap themselves to get an Evo (or STI for that matter) because they share the same passion and it infuriates me that they would be charged over MSRP because of thier passion and wind up being terribly upside-down on the deal should they run into a crisis forcing them to unload the car. Can you imagine having paid $40k for an Evo and selling it today because you lost your job? OUCH
peace
I know there are many people on this board who really strap themselves to get an Evo (or STI for that matter) because they share the same passion and it infuriates me that they would be charged over MSRP because of thier passion and wind up being terribly upside-down on the deal should they run into a crisis forcing them to unload the car. Can you imagine having paid $40k for an Evo and selling it today because you lost your job? OUCH
peace
Originally Posted by talalhz
You are all missing the point here ! WHAT IS THE MSRP ? ????????????????????
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Just my 2 cents: As a potential buyer of both the Sti and the MR (and other Evo models too, mind you) the idea of paying over MSRP for exclusivity isn't a complete turn off to me. Asking 40 grand for an MR isn't particularly nice of the Mitsu dealers, but considering that only 1000 of them are coming to the US and it will drag a Carrera C4 by its tail around a racetrack for half the price, a little markup is understandable. Can you get real exclusivity for that price anywhere else? Maybe a Lotus elise, but the MR is a much more well rounded car.
Originally Posted by TripleChris
Just my 2 cents: As a potential buyer of both the Sti and the MR (and other Evo models too, mind you) the idea of paying over MSRP for exclusivity isn't a complete turn off to me. Asking 40 grand for an MR isn't particularly nice of the Mitsu dealers, but considering that only 1000 of them are coming to the US and it will drag a Carrera C4 by its tail around a racetrack for half the price, a little markup is understandable. Can you get real exclusivity for that price anywhere else? Maybe a Lotus elise, but the MR is a much more well rounded car.
