I was testing the release versions of Evo AccessTuner Pro (Professional Tune Shops) and AccessTuner Racer (For Individuals) on Friday. There will be a beta release to a few tuners shortly after Sema. Once we deem is solid (no problems so far), the AccessTuner Pro will be released. Very shortly after the AccessTuner Racer will be released. It would be sooner, but most of our crew is out this week.

 

Evoscan can do that for $25 and you get free upgrades for future versions.
Advantage AP
You can do that with Ecuflash and a cheap laptop.
Check the Ecuflash forum. We have patches for everyone of what you quote above. And they are all for FREE.
These are canned maps. Every Evo is different. What works well on one Evo may not work well on another Evo.

Check the Ecuflash forums. We can now store multiple maps in our Ecu and switch between them. The method is not finalized yet. But it will be and it is for FREE.
The big difference is the price that you pay. You have to pay $250 extra over and above the $695 that you paid for the AP. With Ecuflash all you need is a $90 cable and a use $250 lap top and your done. You are left with about $600 in your pocket with Ecuflash. I guess that does not matter to you, but it matters to me.

 

^ Obviously the AccessPort is going to be easier to use, especially for people who aren't too into tuning stuff themselves or constantly logging their ECU info then reflashing it over and over again. Obviously a custom tune will yield the most power especially for someone with a bunch of random mods (X brand intake, bigger intercooler, cams, turbo, etc.), but the AP should be great particularly for people whose upgrade path consists of simple bolt-ons (catback, TBE). When I used to want a WRX, I used to look at their AP maps for it, and I believe that in time we'll see more maps for the Evo but for common setups (a certain turbo kit, cams, etc.). Just give it time. If your car already has a butt load of mods on it and you're in immediate need of a tune, then a custom flash might be better. But for someone who is either just starting to mod or only has a few things on, then the AP would be a good step.

 

It is not so much a matter of anyone gettting b-hurt.....but you are somewhat correct we are trying to use this forum to learn about the benefits, facts, new learning...etc...etc...we all know that other tuning abilities are out there....which as we all know are excellent...and ECUflash is FREE!...


the only thing I would say on this is that from your above statement you say it is untrue....what is untrue?.....I have the AP and all the things I mentioned it does....and ROB responded saying Pro-tuner/Street-tuner is coming out....so there is no untrue statement

 

We/Cobb have become very good creating base maps for cars all over the world. With our base maps, the car will run safe, smooth, and be 90-95% there for power potential. We like to think our maps as being something an OEM would be proud to release as a performance option. From our base maps the customer will have the option of having a professional tune their vehicle to get the last 5-10% or will be able to do so them selfs if they wish. Either way there will be a professional, like Stephen, there to help if the need arises.

Some of us are super geeks who wear their LT on their belt, like you and I may, but most people are normal.

*Edit* As a side note, I have pulled a few non-professional EcuFlash tuner's maps from ECUs. Let's just say I'm surprised the motors survived. Unless you have a strong desire to learn the intricacies of how the internal combustion motor works (Some do), leave the tuning to the Pros. We have seen several tanked motors from people learning how to tune. Some have the money to make that mistake, some don't. That being said the 4G63 is one amazingly strong motor.

 

NJ1266---

Thanks for letting us know that the AP costs $$$ and ECUflash is FREE!!!!

That is wonderful news that CNN should report on

Just to address one thing....and COBB can attest to this is...that YES...RIGHT NOW only canned maps exist...PRETTY GOOD ONES THOUGH but soon the ability to "Custom" tune will be available...........

And by the way...do you really think that If I have the cash to spend 30K on a car I can't afford the $695 +tuning Fees to use the AP as my device for tuning.......Maybe ECUflash is great for all those idiots out there who are in debt because of a car and hense need FREE STUFF to survive..........Okay that was harsh....just my sick humor!!!!!

LETS GET BACK ON TOPIC

 

So protuner has the ability to go mafless, which openecu does and I've been told may be a possibility with AP down the road? NLTS?

 

Classic. You should spend some of your money on a spell checker, big balla.

 

I'm sure if ECUflash has the ability then COBB must know how do it as well using AccessPORT.

but come on man the thing has been out for 2 weeks....give it time for them to develop further....they have already said whatever the feed back is....and where the interest is...they will go down those avenues.

ECUflash has developed further over time....allow AP to do the same


I'm sorry I spelled HENCE wrong.....


All I can say is I enjoy the AP and think for where my car is at it is a great tool!

 

I'm not getting on their *** for not having it out, I'm sure if it does come out it will work as advertised and work well.
However I was pointing out that differences in features which one supports and another doesn't in an attempt to make information that is shared here correct.

No problem on hence, just wanted to point out that if you live in a glass house you shouldn't be shooting off a howitzer in your living room.

 

Are you sure they weren't professional maps? You should have seen the knock I got from my canned tune purchased from a very very well known vendor. Several other very well known professional vendors/tuners have also produced nasty canned tunes. There's plenty of reading in the ECUFlash forum. The point being is that even professional tunes can have problems. Your best bet for your 90% tunes is to include not only example HP/TQ curves but also AFR and knock curves.

 

Who in the heck are you kidding?

You're not clarifying any correct information in this thread!!! No one in this thread has even asked about MAFless "whatever" except for you....and I clearly remember Christian and Rob responding with correct info on their take on the matter.

You are acting like COBB is lying about what the AP does in an attempt to fool the public into buying it..well....HERE HE comes to save the day BRIAN H....will set everyone straight on the facts......give it up.

Your Arguement is simple....you love ECUflash because it is Free....and from what I have seen of that program it is pretty darn sweet and a great tool for tuning EVO's.....so now AP comes along...a little late in the game...and you want to very innocently and deceptively bash it while calling it "setting the facts straight".

ECUflash....AEM EMS....MOTEC...Whatever....they are all great....but if you don't have anything worthwhile to add then go ruin another thread.

 

You guys are killing me. Everyone has had a bad experience with something or someone. The point is not that there is one or two Professional tuners who may have let a car go in a bad state. The point is the odds of getting a good tune from a Professional are much greater than that from a weekend warrior.

 

I certainly clarified the misinformation you've spread in this thread, I believe that this is the second time as well. Maybe you can continue to talk about something you know nothing about and go for a third?

Who am I kidding? You're the one that said AP has the same functionality and I proved you wrong. The only kidding thats going on is you kidding yourself by pretending to know what you're talking about. Let your buddy at IA do the talking and promoting of the product. He's at least got a clue.

I haven't insinuated anything to that effect about Cobb, nor would I. Practice reading and comprehension.

Actually I love ECUFlash because currently its the most flexible option for those who want to tune their car while remaining obdII compliant. I've got enough in this car I'm more concerned about good products that work correctly than taking the cheap route. If you want to continue to pretend it's all about cost then by all means continue the trend of you being incorrect.

I've not bashed the AP, In fact I've stated time and time again that I'm eager to see some of the more advanced functionality of the accessport and if it's got what I want I'll be picking it up. The only thing I've done that you've some how misconstrued as bashing the AP was correct your continuous clueless posts.

How about you do the same? Maybe then information and not misinformation can be added to this thread. As much as your fanboying may appease your friends at IA that you seem to advertise for all the time your constant injections of stupid into this thread are derailing it more than I have.

 

One of the better things said in this thread and honestly that's a big plus of the AP. People who don't know any better aren't given the temptation to pop their car on their own and are more likely to find someone that you all have found to be a competent tuner for a pro-tune. .