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Yea.. the vehicle settings probably aren't right... I basically used the Evo 8 settings, but reduced the weight to 2701 lbs as found on a technical specs website.
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Glad to see you got the right def file in there. The maps look much better.
Also, about the HP/TQ curves - I was just researching all that today. Here are the gear ratios for the 02-07 Lancers (tranny # F5M42)
mph @ 6000 rpm on 195/60/15
1st ... 3.583 @ 31.8 mph
2nd ... 1.947 @ 58.52 mph
3rd ... 1.379 @ 82.63 mph
4th ... 1.030 @ 110.63 mph
5th ... 0.767 @ 148.56 mph
Final Drive...3.722
Input those values as well as the proper weight and you should get pretty accurate numbers.
I'll be doing full out tuning on my Lancer tomorrow night, pushing for 11 PSI. My target AFRs will be 11.1-11.2, with no knock, and EGTs below 1600* F. Wish me luck
Also, about the HP/TQ curves - I was just researching all that today. Here are the gear ratios for the 02-07 Lancers (tranny # F5M42)
mph @ 6000 rpm on 195/60/15
1st ... 3.583 @ 31.8 mph
2nd ... 1.947 @ 58.52 mph
3rd ... 1.379 @ 82.63 mph
4th ... 1.030 @ 110.63 mph
5th ... 0.767 @ 148.56 mph
Final Drive...3.722
Input those values as well as the proper weight and you should get pretty accurate numbers.
I'll be doing full out tuning on my Lancer tomorrow night, pushing for 11 PSI. My target AFRs will be 11.1-11.2, with no knock, and EGTs below 1600* F. Wish me luck
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LOL... good ole Z_Lancer... just a wealth of knowledge!
Actually... those gear ratios really messed up the HP/Tq estimates... actually, it put HP up to 185 and Tq to 174.
I just found this link: http://outlander.kiev.ua/manual/Outl...004800-22A.pdf
It's a Mitsubishi manual for the F5M42 (2WD) transmission, and has the following gear ratios:
1st... 3.583
2nd...1.947
3rd... 1.379
4th... 1.030
5th... 0.820
Reverse... 3.363
Final Drive... 4.625
I put those ratios into EVOScan and got a result of 109hp/102 ft.lbs of torque. I think these just might be the correct ratios.
Actually... those gear ratios really messed up the HP/Tq estimates... actually, it put HP up to 185 and Tq to 174.
I just found this link: http://outlander.kiev.ua/manual/Outl...004800-22A.pdf
It's a Mitsubishi manual for the F5M42 (2WD) transmission, and has the following gear ratios:
1st... 3.583
2nd...1.947
3rd... 1.379
4th... 1.030
5th... 0.820
Reverse... 3.363
Final Drive... 4.625
I put those ratios into EVOScan and got a result of 109hp/102 ft.lbs of torque. I think these just might be the correct ratios.
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Nope, those are actually not the right ones. At least according to Rhyzin, one of our EvoM gurus: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=62415
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You have to realize as well that it also depends on your tire size/diameter. There are actually several variables to you have to get right:
* Gear Ratios
* Tire Diameter
* Vehicle Weight
* Front Surface Area ( we are not the same as an EVO)
* Drag Coefficient (again, not the same as the EVO)
* Altitude Pressure
* Air Temp
Once all those are properly inputed, then you should get pretty close numbers
* Gear Ratios
* Tire Diameter
* Vehicle Weight
* Front Surface Area ( we are not the same as an EVO)
* Drag Coefficient (again, not the same as the EVO)
* Altitude Pressure
* Air Temp
Once all those are properly inputed, then you should get pretty close numbers
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Hmm... weird. Maybe there's a flaw in the 4th gear pull log that I'm using, but those gear ratios throw it way off, while the one in the link I posted are really close according to a dyno graph that lancerrally45 sent me, and we basically have the same engine mods. His dyno had him @ 112 HP, 121 Tq... I dunno, maybe I'll just have to wait until I really dyno it this summer! 
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True true.... wanna try and gather up what our surface area and drag coeff. are? lol j/k

Edit:
True true.... wanna try and gather up what our surface area and drag coeff. are? lol j/k
You are supose to see retard ignition in the low octane map, if you look at the 60% load, you see more advance in low octane map vs high octane... (20 in high octane vs 26 in low octane at 3000 rpm...)
If you take a look at the first post of this thread, you will see 4 to 5 degree of retard between 60 to 100%. (26 in high octane vs 21 in low octane....)
LOL... good ole Z_Lancer... just a wealth of knowledge!
Actually... those gear ratios really messed up the HP/Tq estimates... actually, it put HP up to 185 and Tq to 174.
I just found this link: http://outlander.kiev.ua/manual/Outl...004800-22A.pdf
It's a Mitsubishi manual for the F5M42 (2WD) transmission, and has the following gear ratios:
1st... 3.583
2nd...1.947
3rd... 1.379
4th... 1.030
5th... 0.820
Reverse... 3.363
Final Drive... 4.625
I put those ratios into EVOScan and got a result of 109hp/102 ft.lbs of torque. I think these just might be the correct ratios.
Actually... those gear ratios really messed up the HP/Tq estimates... actually, it put HP up to 185 and Tq to 174.
I just found this link: http://outlander.kiev.ua/manual/Outl...004800-22A.pdf
It's a Mitsubishi manual for the F5M42 (2WD) transmission, and has the following gear ratios:
1st... 3.583
2nd...1.947
3rd... 1.379
4th... 1.030
5th... 0.820
Reverse... 3.363
Final Drive... 4.625
I put those ratios into EVOScan and got a result of 109hp/102 ft.lbs of torque. I think these just might be the correct ratios.
I think Zlancer have the rigth one.
My stock map look like the Zlancer, mitsubishi retard the ignition when they get knock... They don't advance. (The engine will boommmm)







