Damn.. hornstar is manual and i tried his settings and 03lances as well with no luck

 

Hey if you want to try my rom email me at stephen12211@yahoo.com

for some reason when I start it it goes rich and then it goes to stoich so I fixed the idle issue but heres the problem so I need some help with the idling table because when I drive around for a bit and come to a light or just stop for 10 seconds the engine goes really rich to 10's and the idle goes up and down between 700 to 1100 rpms and then once it goes below 500 rpm it just dies and I have to start it up again. I think its the stepper values but I don't know how to adjust those. Need help!!!

 

I've noticed a ticking noise as well when I start the car, on stock injectors. The tick isn't there on the lancer ROM. If I tap the accel pedal, or put it in gear and start to drive, or anything like that....the noise is gone and never returns....until the next mornings cold start that is.

 

Yeah, sounded like I was a little drunk or something. One more time, WITH FEELING!

If I turn the key, I can hear the car trying to start, and I just don't hold the key down very long since it starts so quick. So, I turn the key, with the evo rom on the car's ecu, and then I let go pretty quick. At the point I have let go, the car isn't started, but after a split second of letting go, the car fires up. I'm not sure what the deal is there, but typically, like with my old truck, I hold the key down until I hear the car actually sound like it's about to start. With the lancer, if I do that, it won't ever actually sound like it's going to start when warm. If I do, then to actually get it to start, once I've held the key down too long and it hasn't started, I have to pump the gas a smidgen.

clear as mud?

 

Any updates on the startup issue's?? I have tried like everything i can think of and i still cant seem to find the problem. I really think its something to do with the def file, like a table got swapped out or mis-placed. I still am having trouble with disassembly understanding all the numbers and what they mean, so i dont think im near ready to go looking for stuff. 03lances how are you coming along with disasembly

 

You'll have better results with trail/error than you will learning dissasembly just to find the startup settings, lol. I drove to my "on-site" location for the day this morning, parked it, ran in, determined I didn't need to stay, and got in the car. Turned the key...no start, turned it again, and it just barely started....but didn't want to at first. I'm going to spend some time this weekend working on the startup, see if I can't get it exactly as the base lancer startup. I might even flash the old back, log IPW and what not, and see if I can determine the difference.

 

Thats a good idea, falshing the stock ROM back and logg IPW and IDC% as well as coolant temp. Maybe it could help, its so weird tho, how it starts so easy when cold, but warm its a PITA.

 

No dice yet really, the holiday mania is really slowing me down. I have been punching in addresses from the XML files into IDApro and trying to determine how these guys can look at this code and say "oh ya thats looks suspiciously like a coolant temp vs. rpm table" or even a fuel map for that matter. Ill get it though I always do just ask any of my friends lol. They know better by now though to try and tell me to quit they know I am going to hit it until I understand SOMETHING hehe.

Stange this is to me even with my injector tune way screwy it would ALWAYS fire right up although idle was wonky at times. Never has my car not started after the first crank or two.

 

Hahah i wonder the same thing, it really is a whole different format, i get so confused.


Yeah im not sure, i even tried changing the scalings and everything, i hate to say it but i cant think of anything else as to whats causing this

 

Perhaps I am totally missing something...like I had a huge brain fart and forgot everything I've done thus far....but just perusing the ROMs I have. I may have never tried the EXACT stock lancer tables for cranking. There are a few of them, as far as per temp, or over time decay. I was possibly thinking there was just 1, or not comparing them properly because sometimes I remember thinking "oh that's weird, his has a few less elements than mine". Anyway, comparing mitsu.kids, and mine to the base rom...we're way off. So, the pic I attached is Mitsu's on top, my ones I'm going to try today that are from the base rom, and on bottom are 03lances which he has no problems with.

Just from them, I can see why you might have issues with warm starts, the numbers are quite diff in that are. Try the ones I have there, or 03lances and see if they are any better.

 

Ahhhh ok, so the one you labeled "me" in the middle there, are these the stock lancer settings? Also what table is which bro? i know one is "IPW vs coolant temp" whats the other table? Also i have approx MS. You have MS and 03lances uses "units" What are the correct scaling functions for ether the "units" or "ms"? Should i leave mine "appox ms" and input the values from ether you or 03 lances, or should i change the scaling, i think you can remember what happened when i changed the scaling from "approx ms" to "ms" and input the values, the car wouldnt crank and wideband read 10.0 rich. Just need a little more direction as to what i should try. Thanks brotha

 

They are Injector Cranking Enrichment IPW Adder (Main) for the left one, and Initial Cranking IPW vs Coolant Temp for the one on the right. Leave the scaling the same, the stock lancer uses that "TimeTCompCrankingHack" or whatever thing, so just leave it as that, it's right for a base lancer or the base lancer w/ Tephra patches ROMs.

 

Ok, i didnt know that, i changed the scaling for the IPW vs coolant temp to "timeINJcranking" or whatever to rad "ms". Ill change it back to "approx ms" and input the values you have. I tried 03lances settings with no luck. Still had to use the gas pedal to get the car started when warm. Here is a log of the IDC% and IPW on cranking when warm:

 

seems to be cranking better, it takes about 3 seconds or so now with your settings Hornstar. Here is a log with your settings:

 

ditto i just tried ur horns values and still no luck