Just my guess from the log, it looks like it took 1.3 seconds or so to start....that's when warm I assume, because the temp is 170. Did it start "nicely"? or did it sound unhappy about starting? Also, if it did indeed still have trouble, increase or reduce that number, in milliseconds there, at the temp your car is at, and see if you can get it nicer. For example, if yours didn't want to start Mitsu, and it was 170Degrees F, you have 6.3ms there, so I'm thinking the cranking and initial are like 6.3 and 2.4, that's about 12 when multiplied....not sure the formula, but it's probably some sort of addition or whatever. Anyhow, if it didn't start and your log shows 11 as IPW at first, but it did work after a bit when it's 6-9, then decrease that "Cranking Primer IPW" or whatever, and see if it fires up sooner.

 

it didnt start up as easy as when its cold, it like "chokes" it does start sooner, but that 1.3 seconds is like 4 or 5 cranks, when warm its 1 to 2 cranks and very healthy, any ideas?

 

I sorta, kinda was still editing my reply there above...try adjusting the IPW ms numbers in the problem area, and see if you can't get it to start easier, decrease 1 or the other of those 2 tables, and see if it makes any difference.

Also, read what MrFred says on those 2 values. Not sure exactly which is which, but the primer one might be the one you'd try adjusting first, since it sounds like it might be priming way too much up front when warm.

 

Hahaha sorry bro, i re-read it. Ok ill try decreesing the number in the "IPW adder main" and see if it cranks better when warm and let you know! do you want me to logg again?

 

Yeah, log whatever you can. Also, try reducing "Injector Cranking Primer Enrichment" in the upper range, and see how that works. Log all of them changes, it's good evidence, not just "seems better", you know? Helps for looking for trends too.

 

Ok, here is the log and a screen print of what my settings are, it seems to help a bit, but still its a shaking startup. As you can see in the log, its like 3.8 IPW when it starts to start up or whatever then jumps to 9.7-7.0 or higher for a few sec and it makes the startup "rough" but i dont know what else to decreese?

 

I think I made a discovery with rom

Ok I was reviewing 03lances map, and I think I came to a conclusion about idling and start up portion.

03lances map started at 10 load and 500 rpm on both high octane and ignition...
Since our cars dont move on start up why not start from 0 load and 0 rpm and see how that affects start up and warm up.

I was leaning out because Im thinking the ecu didnt know what to do at 0 load because it starts at 10 im trying this tomorrow and see where it takes me. Im pretty excited because I think this might fix my issue

 

If you change the fuel map to 0 load and 0 RPM just know that the timing maps will also start at 0 load and 0 RPM. Also at startup my car is at 20+ or so % load and 750 RPM, So im not sure that changing to 0 load and 0 RPM will be the fix, but keep us updated

 

my custom N/A map even starts at 0 load and 0 rpms with increments of 5
and im still having the startup problem, but i dont have any idle issues nor knock issues.



sorry for the giant pic.

 

Its ok, i post giant pics all the time I worked out the knock issues as well for me, so far im getting a random 1 count every now and then, but so far im at 7 timing advanced in boost WOT, im going to increese some more tomorrow until i get knock. Im still also having startup problems even with using 03lances startup settings and hornstars, not sure, maybe i need to increese the values in the IPW adder main, and IPW vs coolant temp instead of decreesing them? not sure

 

So what exactly is the start up problem yall are having? im just curious because Im not seeing any start up issue at all.

 

dude ive done pretty much everything and it got worst. ill help out after im done with my finals.

 

The startup problem we are having is with the tephra v7 rom, for me atleast. It starts up cold NP and healthy, but when warm the car struggles to start, it takes a few cranks and its not a very "healthy" startup. By not healthy, it stumbled and hesitates

 

I'm nowhere near +7 in boost at WOT.

 

Yeah im running about 7-8* at 6 PSI WOT the car pulls real nice! Also i have my plugs gapped at .38 inches compared to most turbo guys that run at .24inches. But im getting occasional misfire around 4,000 RPM's or so every now and then, so im going to re-gap it at .32 inches and see if that will fix it! The highest count of knock i saw was 1 count at 2,600 RPM, tonite was scary tho, i was rippin down the street pullin away from my buddys car when all the sudden ***BOOM!!*** the wideband read 10.0AFR and my oil PSI droped to 10PSI and the car stalled out and died.... i put my hazards on and popped my hood expecting the worst. But i was luck, my BOV was loose and i totally forgot to tighten it when it blew off the intake hahah, i had tools with me so i put it back on, tightened it up and ripped down the street again LOL so scary i thought i blew th motor