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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 06:25 PM
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so can i use the 4g64 from a '94 galant???
No. Its turned the wrong way.

are all 4g64 engines the same???
No. See above.

or do some have the tranny on the opposite side compared to our lancers???
Yes. See above.
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 01:58 AM
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ok, that sucks!!! well, what years should i be looking at???
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 12:05 PM
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 11:11 AM
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Couple questions.

I understand that by switching gears from the lancer into the 4G64 bell housing it's a direct fit, this is cool. My problem is I have an auto transmission and I would like to swap to a manual trans.

So I'm wondering if I need to first find a manual '06 Lancer gear set to swap into the 4G64 manual trans housing, or can I swap my current auto gear set into the 4G64 manual trans housing?

I know the auto is a 4 speed and that the manual is a 5 speed, but could I just find the 5th and final gears somewhere else?

Even if that were possible would it be more time and effort consuming to frankenstein my trans than to just find a proper manual set up and use that instead?

I have a feeling the auto to manual thing won't work but I need clarification.

Thanks in advance.
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Shinjo Yoshida
Couple questions.

I understand that by switching gears from the lancer into the 4G64 bell housing it's a direct fit, this is cool. My problem is I have an auto transmission and I would like to swap to a manual trans.

So I'm wondering if I need to first find a manual '06 Lancer gear set to swap into the 4G64 manual trans housing, or can I swap my current auto gear set into the 4G64 manual trans housing?

I know the auto is a 4 speed and that the manual is a 5 speed, but could I just find the 5th and final gears somewhere else?

Even if that were possible would it be more time and effort consuming to frankenstein my trans than to just find a proper manual set up and use that instead?

I have a feeling the auto to manual thing won't work but I need clarification.

Thanks in advance.
as far as i know the auto gears into the manual housing is a no go. It should be completely different gearing with it being a 4 speed and the manual a 5 spd. I am not sure if you could just use the gears already in the manual tranny of the 4g64 or you would need to find gears from a 4g94 manual tranny. someone needs to shed light on that part.
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 09:49 AM
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I figured as much. I guess the only way to get the trans done would be to go and get a manual trans out of another Lancer. I'm starting to think buying an Eclipse would be a lot easier.
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Old Aug 10, 2007 | 02:51 AM
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Dyno sheet by anychance?? I am doubtful only bc I have this engine in my Eclipse and stock it only dynos about 108WHP and bolt ons wont get u that high.

1. HP to weight ratio is and has been an over site by MANY! the Lancer is aprox 330lbs LIGHTER than the eclipse. HP:Weight FTW!
2. I had Crower Cams and a Venom 400 program (chip/piggy).
3. ALL the Bolt ons.
4. ALL suspension mods.


i have been looking for that dyno sheet...i just fear that it was in the lancer when she was stolen...
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Old Aug 10, 2007 | 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyBoy427
as far as i know the auto gears into the manual housing is a no go.
That is correct. The insides of an auto are totally different from a manual for any car.
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 09:48 PM
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will the 4g64 tranny gears fit in the 4g94 case?
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 12:25 AM
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^ yes...BUT then you would NEED to convert your axels to an eclipse's
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 06:39 AM
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lol, so I guess the real thing that everyone is worried about is no longer the engine swap itself, but it's the tranny, and how to make it work properly, bcuz that's where I'm at right now, I want to make it work, but i need to get the tranny to make it work right, sick of auto
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by rpm_ruffryders
1. HP to weight ratio is and has been an over site by MANY! the Lancer is aprox 330lbs LIGHTER than the eclipse. HP:Weight FTW!



i have been looking for that dyno sheet...i just fear that it was in the lancer when she was stolen...
Ya thats why people have been swapping the 4G63 head with the 4G64 or even swapping complete engines in the 3G, because the Eclipse is lighter than the Evo.
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by rpm_ruffryders
1. HP to weight ratio is and has been an over site by MANY! the Lancer is aprox 330lbs LIGHTER than the eclipse. HP:Weight FTW!



i have been looking for that dyno sheet...i just fear that it was in the lancer when she was stolen...
Ya thats why people have been swapping the 4G63 head with the 4G64 or even swapping complete engines in the 3G, because the Eclipse is lighter than the Evo.
Ya and find that Dyno sheet the club3g peeps would love to see it..... it will put to rest alot of heresay on that site......everyone is so sceptical when it comes to NA power from the 4G64
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 01:16 PM
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no matter what, the g64 brings about an extra 30 hp than the g94, and since ruff was at 160 or so when the car was stolen, to me that sounds pretty good, the g94 has crappy gains with bolt-ons, right now I have headers, DP, cat-back, short ram and crank pulley, and I still get passed by pretty much everything. Only a turbo with the g94 does anything, and that's why I'm gettin rid of mine, but I'm gonna be using a different engine
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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 05:52 AM
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ya, the 4g64 is a very stong engine, it will take just about anything u throw at it, some of the internals are even forged(brain fart right now cant think of which parts are forged stock) not the pistons tho but they are strong and the bottom end is tough as well.
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