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Old Sep 29, 2007 | 06:46 PM
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Well Jehuty, I am now officially into a place now (albeit it is in Orlando and nowhere close to you) so I'll be working on the car again (first time in MONTHS) to finish the swap. I'll let you know when I will be working on it (I'm off Fr / Sa) so if you want to come by, you can. It'll be a long drive for you (I'm on Dean Road between 50 and University) but I'm gonna try to finish it ASAP and you are welcome to stop by.
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Old Sep 29, 2007 | 07:41 PM
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Why wouldn't you want to swap to a manual? If you're going to go to all of the trouble of swaping the engine for a gain of maybe 20-30hp (stock), wouldn't you want to have better control of those horses? Granted, it's probably a much more mod friendly engine, but you could do better without the extra weight of the auto and the fact that manual trans would make it more of a driver's car and so much more enjoyable. Switching to manual is half the reason I am considering a swap someday. I love the tossability of my car but miss manual gear selection. That's saying alot when the last car I had with manual trans was a 1985 Nissan Sentra hatchback (think base model underpowered AE85 Corolla Levin hatch, but with FWD and it was a Nissan rather than Toyota). That car was much more weak than my Lancer was (even stock) and I could still honestly say that I miss the way I could downshift around corners in that turd of a Sentra. I say swap to manual and if you're afraid of destroying your newly aquired 4G64's clutch while learning, use someone else's (rent a car).
Well, like I said, if one of you can convince me that its worth it/ cost effective, I'll reconsider it. But the truth is I gotta import the engine and BOTH trannys. That's a whole lotta money I don't have. And I'm only shooting for 250hp (just sounds like a fun number). I'm only looking for the cheapest, yet effective way to get there. Who knows, I'm suppose to be moving to NC in a couple of years, maybe things will look better then. For now I'm just beefing up/ redoing my suspension while doing homework on this swap .

One more thing. I read somewhere here, that an auto to manual conversion isn't anywhere close in performance and feel to one that was factory manual. Thoughts anyone?

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Old Sep 30, 2007 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by KillahB
Well Jehuty, I am now officially into a place now (albeit it is in Orlando and nowhere close to you) so I'll be working on the car again (first time in MONTHS) to finish the swap. I'll let you know when I will be working on it (I'm off Fr / Sa) so if you want to come by, you can. It'll be a long drive for you (I'm on Dean Road between 50 and University) but I'm gonna try to finish it ASAP and you are welcome to stop by.
Dude, that's not far at all, I work off of Sand Lake Rd, I'm off this Saturday, maybe I'll swing by and take a look at it, I really want to see what you're doing to it. Gotta show me where you bought your engine from, I still can't find one at decent pricing.....I'll admit I haven't searched hard enough, for some reason I have my mind set on saving for an Evo X, lol. Keeping my car though, and just started getting ready to purchase the wifey an audi TT, gotta teach her manual though.
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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by GuamLancer
Well, like I said, if one of you can convince me that its worth it/ cost effective, I'll reconsider it. But the truth is I gotta import the engine and BOTH trannys. That's a whole lotta money I don't have. And I'm only shooting for 250hp (just sounds like a fun number). I'm only looking for the cheapest, yet effective way to get there. Who knows, I'm suppose to be moving to NC in a couple of years, maybe things will look better then. For now I'm just beefing up/ redoing my suspension while doing homework on this swap .

One more thing. I read somewhere here, that an auto to manual conversion isn't anywhere close in performance and feel to one that was factory manual. Thoughts anyone?

honestly, for you RIGHT NOW, this swap probably isnt the best route...but you say ur coming back to the states..so just stick to your plan...build up suspension and once you get here...swap away!

oh, and someone asked about how to swap out tranny internals...DONT! haha...
honestly, unless your THAT mechanically inclined...SEND IT TO A SHOP to swap out the internals. all you will need i a new seal and the 2 trannys and about 200 bucks (average labor-time on the swap...like 2-4 hours). its relatively easy, but SO MUCH can go wrong. Oh and YES...if you're going thru all of that convert to a manual trans...i still have my Lancers ecu if anyone needs/wants it...
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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by rpm_ruffryders
honestly, for you RIGHT NOW, this swap probably isnt the best route...but you say ur coming back to the states..so just stick to your plan...build up suspension and once you get here...swap away!

oh, and someone asked about how to swap out tranny internals...DONT! haha...
honestly, unless your THAT mechanically inclined...SEND IT TO A SHOP to swap out the internals. all you will need i a new seal and the 2 trannys and about 200 bucks (average labor-time on the swap...like 2-4 hours). its relatively easy, but SO MUCH can go wrong. Oh and YES...if you're going thru all of that convert to a manual trans...i still have my Lancers ecu if anyone needs/wants it...
Won't we need the ecu of the new engine that is being put in??? Does ecu matter for a tranny....I hate this swap, lol, jus kiddin
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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 07:10 PM
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Won't we need the ecu of the new engine that is being put in??? Does ecu matter for a tranny....I hate this swap, lol, jus kiddin
ECU is engine specific.... u cant have a 4g94 ecu on a 4g63/4 engine.. it MUST match!
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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 04:35 AM
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That's what I thought, so that's why I was askin RPM why he was sellin his, when we can't use it.
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Old Oct 7, 2007 | 04:37 AM
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i just threw that out therefor those that didnt want to do the swap but still wanted to convert from auto to manual... sorry for the mix up.
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Old Oct 7, 2007 | 05:03 AM
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Oh ok, gotcha, I was confused as hell, not only was I stumped with the tranny swap, but ur ecu thing threw me off completely. I Was about to buy an Inline 6 ecu >.> okay, I'm not that retarded, lol, I was kidding
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 01:01 PM
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I know I will get lambasted for this but, I swear I have seen (maybe it was on rpw's site) that you can put the V6 from the Galant into the lancer. We used to have a Galant with a V6 and that thing hauled. I would like that back hahaha. The hauling that is. Any knowledgeable postings on this please, if it would cost less than a turbo I am in.
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 01:38 PM
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I don't think any engine swap, after all the labor and parts you need, a turbo will always be cheaper and more straight foward, not to mention easy enough to do it in your own garage with basic tools.
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Old Oct 13, 2007 | 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by GFAceo
I know I will get lambasted for this but, I swear I have seen (maybe it was on rpw's site) that you can put the V6 from the Galant into the lancer. We used to have a Galant with a V6 and that thing hauled. I would like that back hahaha. The hauling that is. Any knowledgeable postings on this please, if it would cost less than a turbo I am in.
I've never heard of it, my friend, BUT if you find out if someone has, and u let me know, u'd be my new best friend
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Old Oct 13, 2007 | 07:22 AM
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I don't think any engine swap, after all the labor and parts you need, a turbo will always be cheaper and more straight foward, not to mention easy enough to do it in your own garage with basic tools.
Agreed.

Some cars lend themselves to swapping. You can yank a Subaru motor and have a new one in by lunchtime. Every Subaru mounted the engine the exact same way. Every Subaru engine is shaped exactly the same. Etc.
Hondas are also famous for swaps.

on the other hand, is not famous for swaps. All the motors are different, they're all placed in the car differently, etc. It's just not as user-friendly to swap.
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Old Oct 13, 2007 | 11:55 AM
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Ugh, grats everyone, we have officially bought a car that is utterly crappy, lol. Only the Evo can really pull it off, not swap wise, but in performance, so we need to get one. Quick! Everyone get their PhD! And we will all buy Evo's
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Old Oct 13, 2007 | 11:59 AM
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You bought a car that is great at what it was designed for, fuel economy, decent entry-level performance and general ease of use.
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