2007 Sky Redline, S2000 Knockout???
Originally Posted by 3000ways
Yes I am entitled to my opinion and in my opinion is that just being a corner carver isn't it enough for me, I'd could get a Miata for that. Also define corner carver, the S2000 is nice, but I'd take the power, the awesome grip, awesome steering, TORQUE, and corner carving abilities of my EVO over the S2000 anyday. Somebody said they'd take a modded S2000, hope you mean Forced Induction, cuz bolt ons get you know where with that car. Let's cut straight to the point, the S2000 is a tired and overrated vehicle, affordable Ferrari my ***, your so called corner carver finished a dismal 7th place in Road and Track's all around sports car test, understandable to place behind beasts like Vipers, C6 Vettes, and Porsches, and real corner carvers like a Lotus Elise, but to finish nearly a second behind a SLK350 is another story. In the land of parking lot cone races, the S2000 puts up a decent fight, but when it comes to real track racing, the S2000 and it's many faults are exposed. Hate my opinion all you want, but all ask for is Honda to offer a better more powerful sports car. The S2000 in my opinion is just a nice car, the Sky Redline has the possibility of being bad ***. Another S2000 on the road *YAWN*, a Sky Redline on the road, now this could be interesting.
Originally Posted by Grav
Coming from an Evo forum guy?
Its still a Lancer....
Its still an Impreza....
Its still a Neon....
That argument is weak. Fast is fast, appreciate it for what it is.
Its still a Lancer....
Its still an Impreza....
Its still a Neon....
That argument is weak. Fast is fast, appreciate it for what it is.
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Why does cheap car necessarily mean a crappy built car?
Lancers are well built, reliable cars - so it is a good platform to start with. I don't think Kia Rios are very good cars at all, so I wouldn't be excited about a turbo AWD version of one of those. IF Honda made a turbo AWD Civic, I'm sure it would be very exciting news to the automotive world and I doubt very few people would say, its just a crappy hopped up cheap Civic.
Lancers are well built, reliable cars - so it is a good platform to start with. I don't think Kia Rios are very good cars at all, so I wouldn't be excited about a turbo AWD version of one of those. IF Honda made a turbo AWD Civic, I'm sure it would be very exciting news to the automotive world and I doubt very few people would say, its just a crappy hopped up cheap Civic.
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Originally Posted by il2az
Fast is fast, but a cheap car is still a cheap car... I love evos and sti's (srt4's are junk regardless) but they're cheap cars with a ton of fancy go-fast crap on them. In much the same way, this redline may be "fast", but regardless its still going to be a cheap and poorly made car. You can stick a v8 into a ford fiesta, that doesn't make it a good car. At least evos and stis have a long heritage, years of fine tuning, and great awd systems to make them that much better.
Originally Posted by GPTourer
Why does cheap car necessarily mean a crappy built car?
Lancers are well built, reliable cars - so it is a good platform to start with. I don't think Kia Rios are very good cars at all, so I wouldn't be excited about a turbo AWD version of one of those. IF Honda made a turbo AWD Civic, I'm sure it would be very exciting news to the automotive world and I doubt very few people would say, its just a crappy hopped up cheap Civic.
Lancers are well built, reliable cars - so it is a good platform to start with. I don't think Kia Rios are very good cars at all, so I wouldn't be excited about a turbo AWD version of one of those. IF Honda made a turbo AWD Civic, I'm sure it would be very exciting news to the automotive world and I doubt very few people would say, its just a crappy hopped up cheap Civic.
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Originally Posted by Grav
So a "long heritage" makes up for the fact that Lancers and Imprezas are cheap? By that logic, you should get a Camaro. It has a far longer "heritage" than either the STI or Evo. Your argument was "ok, my car is cheap, but it has heritage!" And my argument is.... who the %(*&#$% cares about heritage if the car is fast or not? The SRT-4 didn't have a nickel's worth of heritage, yet it is (admit it or not), a frighteningly fast automobile (for the money). This is what the Sky Redline is. Its cheaper than an Evo, STI, or S2000... yet has a HP/weight ratio competitive to said cars. It WILL be fast. Like it or not, its coming, and I for one am glad that its bringing down the cost of admission to that level of performance.
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Well, the front 3/4 view looks heavily photochopped. The tyres look like series 55 or something.
I hope the real thing comes with nicer wheel/tyre package and brakes that at least _look_ better. And what's with all the chrome?
And where's the engine supposed to be? If it's anyway related to the vauxhall, it should be mid engined, right? But there doesn't seem to be any vents etc. on the cover behind the seats...? Togerther with a hint of hood vents, I'd say it's front engined.
Lastly, why on earth did they give it two exhaust outlets? They had an opening in the centre (where they've chosen to put the reverse light) and IMO it would look a thousand times better if the exhaus just came straight through there.
One more thing... are the wing mirrors not blocked almost totally by the rear wheel arches?
I hope the real thing comes with nicer wheel/tyre package and brakes that at least _look_ better. And what's with all the chrome?
And where's the engine supposed to be? If it's anyway related to the vauxhall, it should be mid engined, right? But there doesn't seem to be any vents etc. on the cover behind the seats...? Togerther with a hint of hood vents, I'd say it's front engined.
Lastly, why on earth did they give it two exhaust outlets? They had an opening in the centre (where they've chosen to put the reverse light) and IMO it would look a thousand times better if the exhaus just came straight through there.
One more thing... are the wing mirrors not blocked almost totally by the rear wheel arches?
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Originally Posted by il2az
I don't consider lancers or imprezas to be well built cars, although they are fairly reliable.
And if Honda made a turbo awd civic I'd go out and buy one, because with honda reliability and craftsmanship that'd be one sick car.
I'd say no and no.
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Originally Posted by x838nwy
And where's the engine supposed to be? If it's anyway related to the vauxhall, it should be mid engined, right?
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Originally Posted by GPTourer
No, it is a rebadged Solstice. FR layout. www.pontiac.com
Originally Posted by GPTourer
I wonder what you think is a well built car.
But they haven't even shown an interest in coming even close to building something like this. IS it because a 280hp+ AWD Civic, would be as reliable as people expect Honda's to be? Or would it necessarily be better then an Evo or STi?
I'd say no and no.
But they haven't even shown an interest in coming even close to building something like this. IS it because a 280hp+ AWD Civic, would be as reliable as people expect Honda's to be? Or would it necessarily be better then an Evo or STi?
I'd say no and no.
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Originally Posted by il2az
As far as Japanese companies, the only ones that build good quality cars are Honda, Nissan, and Toyota, although Mitsubishi has been getting better.
Originally Posted by GPTourer
I beg to differ. But only because you consider Nissan to be building better quality cars. They rank lower in both JD Powers and Consumer Reports then Mitsu.