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And I don't feel that the evo is irrelevant to the RS. They will end up competing in the same amateur classes at the track and autocross courses everywhere.
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Figure the magazines will do a farewell love letter article to the evo before the calendar year is over involving the 2015 FE. One last "final round" against the sti.
I guess it'll be RS vs. R then. Should be a fun read either way.
As Noize said. The Evo is gone, no more.
So its irrelevant for a new car test magazines. Also the Evo would be killed by the RS, juts even to looking into the performance sheet it has.
Evo is historically flat car out of factory
So its irrelevant for a new car test magazines. Also the Evo would be killed by the RS, juts even to looking into the performance sheet it has.
Evo is historically flat car out of factory
Last edited by Robevo RS; Mar 9, 2016 at 08:22 PM.
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Except the part where the next Focus will be bigger. That's common sense and I agree.
Last edited by kaj; Mar 9, 2016 at 10:08 PM.
it was all the way to the last FE edition a really detuned race ready car. Some trims actually a homologated base race car. ( the RS trim only)
All of them tuned really low and conservative.
The homologated version out side of the USA doesnt even had a brembo brakes, recaro seats etc etc.
the Evo is one of the few cars in historically, is so called on the street being "over engineered".
As soon as you even just tune it, the car immediately starts really come alive. and as much as i experienced just gets fascinatingly better.
I always found the stock evo boring. Only the steering feel was which gave it a way the hidden beast inside.
All of them tuned really low and conservative.
The homologated version out side of the USA doesnt even had a brembo brakes, recaro seats etc etc.
the Evo is one of the few cars in historically, is so called on the street being "over engineered".
As soon as you even just tune it, the car immediately starts really come alive. and as much as i experienced just gets fascinatingly better.
I always found the stock evo boring. Only the steering feel was which gave it a way the hidden beast inside.
Last edited by Robevo RS; Mar 9, 2016 at 08:39 PM.
80's -90' was a golden years for car enthusiast, in my life time.
Tons of great cars on the street. And then FIA got more and more influence in the car racing world, Pininfarina started to really grow etc. Basically the exact thing happened like in every field you look into. As soon as the governor body gets too big, slowly start choking and dumbing down the area.
hence the proof of too many incompetent people on places where they do not belong, but the market can not push them out for one simple reason: they protected by they buddys...
Its a whole other subject. in a bigger scale the world start slowly seeing that...
PS:
When I was young (about 20 years ago),one of my favorite car I have ever owned, and I herd rumors its coming back
Lancia Delta Integrale Evo 2
Tons of great cars on the street. And then FIA got more and more influence in the car racing world, Pininfarina started to really grow etc. Basically the exact thing happened like in every field you look into. As soon as the governor body gets too big, slowly start choking and dumbing down the area.
hence the proof of too many incompetent people on places where they do not belong, but the market can not push them out for one simple reason: they protected by they buddys...
Its a whole other subject. in a bigger scale the world start slowly seeing that...
PS:
When I was young (about 20 years ago),one of my favorite car I have ever owned, and I herd rumors its coming back
Lancia Delta Integrale Evo 2
Last edited by Robevo RS; Mar 10, 2016 at 04:52 AM.
Case by case basis. Supra? Sure. But I'm referencing more recent things. The main focus for my comment is forced induction applications.
Mazda is the exact opposite of Mitsu in that they're barely adequate for stock power. I call them Marginal Mazdas. The MZR was a joke in both FWD and AWD applications from a modification standpoint. The Mazdaspeed Miata had very little headroom. In bizarro world, factory NA Miatas are infinitely better canvasses, and were probably the most raced and modified platforms in the US at one point.
Subaru is a step up, but there are issues at higher power.
VW is a step beyond that from an engine standpoint, but the clutches are horribly weak and aftermarket replacements are sparse. Hopefully with Cobb and AMS entering the game, these cars will become much more exciting in the aftermarket soon.
BMW is good, but bonafide motorsports parts are shielded behind the M badge, making the cost of entry rather steep.
Ford looks solid, I'm excited to see what comes next from them.
Mazda is the exact opposite of Mitsu in that they're barely adequate for stock power. I call them Marginal Mazdas. The MZR was a joke in both FWD and AWD applications from a modification standpoint. The Mazdaspeed Miata had very little headroom. In bizarro world, factory NA Miatas are infinitely better canvasses, and were probably the most raced and modified platforms in the US at one point.
Subaru is a step up, but there are issues at higher power.
VW is a step beyond that from an engine standpoint, but the clutches are horribly weak and aftermarket replacements are sparse. Hopefully with Cobb and AMS entering the game, these cars will become much more exciting in the aftermarket soon.
BMW is good, but bonafide motorsports parts are shielded behind the M badge, making the cost of entry rather steep.
Ford looks solid, I'm excited to see what comes next from them.