I do love this car. Just feel like its harder to pass this as an adult car being a hatchback lol.

 

Yeah, anyone who thinks 18" rotors fit with 19" wheels has never used a tire machine and/or has not dealt with the average cast iron brake caliper. Even the performance calipers, it's hard to find one that has less than 1/2 true height over the rotor edge.

Here is a typical caliper like brembos





Rotor size is 14.9 ", outside of caliper is at 16.6 dia. So you are up to 17's with .2 " clearance and have not accounted for rim neckdown to get bead of tire over rim on tire machine. Add another 1" dia easy for that, and you are at 18's for a 15" rotor.

And add more to that for many cars with bigger brakes that are just average drivers and use cast calipers (not using brembos, etc...) that stick up even higher over rotor edge.

 

is the Focus RS rotor size 14.9" or the example drawings that you're using?

If its the Focus RS size... I'm digging the overkill in the braking department..

 

unless you have a job that you have to regularly drive clients around, who cares? just get the car you want and screw what other people think...

and if you do have a job that you have to drive clients around, get a used Lexus for 10k and then get your fun car.

 

for me, personally, this has never, ever, ever been an issue. otherwise i probably wouldn't drive an import. especially one with a big 'ol wing on the back LOL.

 

An Evo with it's monster wing isn't an adult car by any stretch either. I'm old. I drive what I like and don't care in the least what other people think about my car.

 

i'd say it's our mid-life crisis.... but if that were true, we'd be driving Corvettes.

 

Seeing this picture:



I think the looks could grow on me. If it was a little longer I think it would be perfect for me. It seems too smooshed.

 

Have no idea, was just responding to the statement that only cars with 18" brakes should have 19" wheels. If 15" brakes need 18" wheels or more, 18" brakes would need 21's.

That's not to say I don't agree that many cars look stupid with 20's and 80/90's size brakes (or tiny drums are even worse)

 

I read the brakes had to be big because it uses the brakes (ebfd) in place of any lsd, and with the constant use they'd fade pretty fast.

 

ugh... thats the worst news I've heard about the car yet... I hope its fully defeatable like on the mustangs

 

Link to source? If not, its just rumor.

 

"The system is calibrated together with Ford’s Electronic Stability Control and brake-based torque-vectoring functions to work as a package deal."

per Autoweek

http://autoweek.com/article/new-york...ve-spring-2016

 

That could definitely be bad news for pad/rotor life at the track.

 

i'd HOPE we could disable it. on the bright side, it should only come into play if you get into trouble which shouldn't be that often. hypothetically speaking, anyway.