Focus RS
Wasn't pointing anybody out.I think one good way to look at Haldex is not to expect Mitsubishi AWD performance. Which is really really really hard to get from anything else.
Even the "hardcore" TT-RS isn't anywhere close to a Evo, dynamic wise.
Does Haldex suck? No, not at all. It actually does some things really well, but also some not so well because of the compromises of the system. I'm excited to see what Haldex paired with the rear diff and vectoring in the RS does.
That Jalopnik mini-article was embarrassingly bad.
The Focus RS engineer on NASIOC has been more illuminating than any other news source. I have no intention of losing my car- hanging onto it for a long time. Based on everything I've read, though, Golf R is my first choice after Evo. This sending all extra power to the front in the RS doesn't bestow me with a lot of confidence that it will behave as well as the Golf, STI, or Evo do with 100whp over stock.
The Focus RS engineer on NASIOC has been more illuminating than any other news source. I have no intention of losing my car- hanging onto it for a long time. Based on everything I've read, though, Golf R is my first choice after Evo. This sending all extra power to the front in the RS doesn't bestow me with a lot of confidence that it will behave as well as the Golf, STI, or Evo do with 100whp over stock.
i saw one at Buttonwillow yesterday. it was really, really nice. i think it would make an awesome daily. he said it did well on course too.
it was white. that was even better LOL.
my friend is getting one for his wife. i'm pretty sure he will be driving it as much as she does LOL
it was white. that was even better LOL.
my friend is getting one for his wife. i'm pretty sure he will be driving it as much as she does LOL
I probably wouldn't be interested in the Golf R. I don't like that there is no "open source" tuning stuff available. You're pretty much stuck with canned tunes from a few companies that all cost about the same..
I had a 2007 GTI back in 2012, couldn't find anything available to even try to tinker with it myself.
At least with Ford, there is already support through Cobb for the current Ecoboost cars, so I'm sure the FoRS will have it as well.Yes, you have to buy an AP, but you then have tuning suite to play with the tunes. Nothing like that is available (or was) for the VW's..
At least with Ford, there is already support through Cobb for the current Ecoboost cars, so I'm sure the FoRS will have it as well.Yes, you have to buy an AP, but you then have tuning suite to play with the tunes. Nothing like that is available (or was) for the VW's..
I used Maestro to custom tune my MK6 Golf R.
It's also silly expensive. It was $1k back then. Now It seems to be around $800..
I think I remember reading a review that now that you brought up a name, and not very much of the OEM parameters were very well defined IIRC, so I didn't bother with it. Maybe it was an old review?
It's also silly expensive. It was $1k back then. Now It seems to be around $800..
It's also silly expensive. It was $1k back then. Now It seems to be around $800..

I'm sure Cobb will have Accesstuner for the RS. The Ford Cobb software is VERY well defined. The Fords use the same type of MED ECU that VW does. Very sophisticated and makes the Evo ECUs look like smoke signals compared.
Tuning my Fiesta ST is a joy.
Last edited by razorlab; Oct 12, 2015 at 05:23 PM.
yes it was limited but it was available. It was $1k back then? Wait, you said you thought nothing was available back then? Lol. You are funny. Are you bending your own knowledge and memory to try and make points? 
I'm sure Cobb will have Accesstuner for the RS. The Ford Cobb software is VERY well defined. The Fords use the same type of MED ECU that VW does. Very sophisticated and makes the Evo ECUs look like smoke signals compared.
Tuning my Fiesta ST is a joy.

I'm sure Cobb will have Accesstuner for the RS. The Ford Cobb software is VERY well defined. The Fords use the same type of MED ECU that VW does. Very sophisticated and makes the Evo ECUs look like smoke signals compared.
Tuning my Fiesta ST is a joy.
Classic.
http://jalopnik.com/heres-how-the-20...tur-1736102956
The new Ford Focus RS Comes with a Stall Recovery feature that will help you look like less of a jackass after you cut the engine out with the clutch pedal, but it won’t stop you from stalling. Here’s how it works.
We’ve all been there; hooning our sweet five-speed Civics and impressing the ladies and/or gents with our sweet lunch tray-assisted donuts, only to forget to depress the clutch when the car comes to a stop. We stall. Aforementioned girls and/or boys laugh. Friends and/or enemies and/or people who aren’t really friends, they’re just like, you know, “there,” make fun of us.
It’s bad news.
So Ford is here to save the day. They’ve fitted their new 2016 Focus RS with a feature called Stall Recovery. Note that although the system was originally characterized as self-actuating—which Ford has since corrected—the feature is not “stall prevention,” in the strictest sense of the word.
Instead, think of it as stall redemption. Meaning you’ve already goofed up and embarrassed yourself.
The good news is that the huge line of cars behind you doesn’t have to wait an eternity while you fumble with your keys to start the thing back up. Ford’s not the first to do this—Porsche and Mini have similar systems—but it’s still a useful feature that seems to be increasingly widespread. Let’s walk through how it works.
Today’s Engine Stop-Start Technology
The system uses Engine Stop-Start, a technology that utilizes an oversized starter motor to let your engine take a breather at stop lights and stop signs.
The way the system works on most of today’s Fords is thus:
You get to a stop sign, depress the clutch and hit the brakes until you come to a halt.
You take the shifter and toss it into neutral
You let off the clutch. The engine stops.
The light turns green. You depress the clutch. The engine fires up.
You shift into gear and get moving.
With Ford’s Stall Recovery Feature
Ford’s Stall Recovery feature uses all the same hardware found in the standard run-of-the-mill Stop-Start system described above, but adds a few lines of code.
These lines of code allow you to stay in gear and simply depress the clutch after stalling. The overweight starter motor then cranks your engine over, and you can get on your way.
If you stalled a vehicle with Stop-Start that did not have Stall Recovery (like the one mentioned in the last section) and you didn’t want to start the car with the push-button, you’d have to put the car in neutral, then depress the clutch, at which point the engine would fire by itself and you could go back into gear and be on your merry way.
So basically, Ford’s feature saves you a couple steps, and maybe spares you from a few choice words from the drivers in traffic behind you.
Since the Focus RS is all-wheel drive and has some decently wide tires, stalling is probably something that will happen at least a few times as drivers get to know their vehicles, so we can see how this feature might be useful.
Now we just need to see it featured on the Ariel Atom.
The new Ford Focus RS Comes with a Stall Recovery feature that will help you look like less of a jackass after you cut the engine out with the clutch pedal, but it won’t stop you from stalling. Here’s how it works.
We’ve all been there; hooning our sweet five-speed Civics and impressing the ladies and/or gents with our sweet lunch tray-assisted donuts, only to forget to depress the clutch when the car comes to a stop. We stall. Aforementioned girls and/or boys laugh. Friends and/or enemies and/or people who aren’t really friends, they’re just like, you know, “there,” make fun of us.
It’s bad news.
So Ford is here to save the day. They’ve fitted their new 2016 Focus RS with a feature called Stall Recovery. Note that although the system was originally characterized as self-actuating—which Ford has since corrected—the feature is not “stall prevention,” in the strictest sense of the word.
Instead, think of it as stall redemption. Meaning you’ve already goofed up and embarrassed yourself.
The good news is that the huge line of cars behind you doesn’t have to wait an eternity while you fumble with your keys to start the thing back up. Ford’s not the first to do this—Porsche and Mini have similar systems—but it’s still a useful feature that seems to be increasingly widespread. Let’s walk through how it works.
Today’s Engine Stop-Start Technology
The system uses Engine Stop-Start, a technology that utilizes an oversized starter motor to let your engine take a breather at stop lights and stop signs.
The way the system works on most of today’s Fords is thus:
You get to a stop sign, depress the clutch and hit the brakes until you come to a halt.
You take the shifter and toss it into neutral
You let off the clutch. The engine stops.
The light turns green. You depress the clutch. The engine fires up.
You shift into gear and get moving.
With Ford’s Stall Recovery Feature
Ford’s Stall Recovery feature uses all the same hardware found in the standard run-of-the-mill Stop-Start system described above, but adds a few lines of code.
These lines of code allow you to stay in gear and simply depress the clutch after stalling. The overweight starter motor then cranks your engine over, and you can get on your way.
If you stalled a vehicle with Stop-Start that did not have Stall Recovery (like the one mentioned in the last section) and you didn’t want to start the car with the push-button, you’d have to put the car in neutral, then depress the clutch, at which point the engine would fire by itself and you could go back into gear and be on your merry way.
So basically, Ford’s feature saves you a couple steps, and maybe spares you from a few choice words from the drivers in traffic behind you.
Since the Focus RS is all-wheel drive and has some decently wide tires, stalling is probably something that will happen at least a few times as drivers get to know their vehicles, so we can see how this feature might be useful.
Now we just need to see it featured on the Ariel Atom.
Originally Posted by razorlab
yes it was limited but it was available. It was $1k back then? Wait, you said you thought nothing was available back then? Lol. You are funny. Are you bending your own knowledge and memory to try and make points? 
I'm sure Cobb will have Accesstuner for the RS. The Ford Cobb software is VERY well defined. The Fords use the same type of MED ECU that VW does. Very sophisticated and makes the Evo ECUs look like smoke signals compared.
Tuning my Fiesta ST is a joy.

I'm sure Cobb will have Accesstuner for the RS. The Ford Cobb software is VERY well defined. The Fords use the same type of MED ECU that VW does. Very sophisticated and makes the Evo ECUs look like smoke signals compared.
Tuning my Fiesta ST is a joy.
No, you brought it up, the name brand, and I remembered. It's something I put a whole 30 minutes into back when I had the car, so I forgot about it. I quickly decided it wasn't worth buying expensive, partially functional software when the canned tunes were cheaper and worked well. Hearing the name just jogged my memory, that's all.











