Focus RS
Originally Posted by revhappy
There is a Focus RS thread on NASIOC where a person who allegedly is from the company doing the RS's AWD system is posting. Basically, he said its a great car, BUT any power increases over stock will go to the front wheels to save the rear section of the drivetrain. If this is the case, this car would be a huge disappointment to me.
Seriously, this.
If you're going to modify and/or race your car on a track, it's pretty reasonable to assume the OEM isn't going to support you with warranty repairs - even if the car is advertised as a special/performance edition (*cough*Subaru*cough*), or if the modifications are done by a dealer.
If you're going to modify and/or race your car on a track, it's pretty reasonable to assume the OEM isn't going to support you with warranty repairs - even if the car is advertised as a special/performance edition (*cough*Subaru*cough*), or if the modifications are done by a dealer.
Even if the mods come with other cars right from the factory and you buy the same lets say super charger right from roush and have the dealer install?!?!? Doesn't sound legal to me and I doubt the would void your warranty
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I just read the last several pages of the thread on NASIOC. I was thinking that I might have to buy one if it was a potential Evo replacement, but its apparently not. Rather disappointing. Fascinating to see the approach Ford management took. It feels to me like they were a bit too isolated from the real world in the sense that modding is a major attraction to any aftermarket performance platform, and they seemed to have dismissed that. Perhaps it might be attractive to owners of non-Evo platforms that are typically limited to a TBE and tune before they blow up. However, those platforms are typically a lot less expensive.
I suppose that at this point if I ever want to try something different than my Evo 9, it might be a used Evo 10. :-)
I suppose that at this point if I ever want to try something different than my Evo 9, it might be a used Evo 10. :-)
I just read the last several pages of the thread on NASIOC. I was thinking that I might have to buy one if it was a potential Evo replacement, but its apparently not. Rather disappointing. Fascinating to see the approach Ford management took. It feels to me like they were a bit too isolated from the real world in the sense that modding is a major attraction to any aftermarket performance platform, and they seemed to have dismissed that. Perhaps it might be attractive to owners of non-Evo platforms that are typically limited to a TBE and tune before they blow up. However, those platforms are typically a lot less expensive.
I suppose that at this point if I ever want to try something different than my Evo 9, it might be a used Evo 10. :-)
I suppose that at this point if I ever want to try something different than my Evo 9, it might be a used Evo 10. :-)
and not to mention they had Ken Block as a consultant on this thing... where was he during all this??? I mean he's not exactly a tuner, but he has some massively modified cars..
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Conspiracy theory person in me thinks Ford doesn't want the Focus RS, in modified form, to compete with the Mustang in terms of power. According to the guy on NASIOC, the Focus chassis cannot accommodate a more robust drivetrain.
He also said the Fiesta chassis doesn't have enough room to build the AWD system. Thus, any RS version will be FWD.
He also said the Fiesta chassis doesn't have enough room to build the AWD system. Thus, any RS version will be FWD.
I just read the last several pages of the thread on NASIOC. I was thinking that I might have to buy one if it was a potential Evo replacement, but its apparently not. Rather disappointing. Fascinating to see the approach Ford management took. It feels to me like they were a bit too isolated from the real world in the sense that modding is a major attraction to any aftermarket performance platform, and they seemed to have dismissed that. Perhaps it might be attractive to owners of non-Evo platforms that are typically limited to a TBE and tune before they blow up. However, those platforms are typically a lot less expensive.
I suppose that at this point if I ever want to try something different than my Evo 9, it might be a used Evo 10. :-)
I suppose that at this point if I ever want to try something different than my Evo 9, it might be a used Evo 10. :-)
i priced out an RS as i want. the website listed it at $37k. eek. so, all the talk is for nothing... i won't be able to afford one haha.
i'm okay with this too. i don't need every car i own to have 500whp. my attraction to the Focus is that i wouldn't have to do much when it comes to power mods. in fact, i wouldn't have to do anything.
i priced out an RS as i want. the website listed it at $37k. eek. so, all the talk is for nothing... i won't be able to afford one haha.
i priced out an RS as i want. the website listed it at $37k. eek. so, all the talk is for nothing... i won't be able to afford one haha.
the way I see it is this is a car for someone that will do no power mods, maybe intake / exhaust for the noises...
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let just talk bolt on's. on the mustang 2.3 they're seeing 50ish tq gain with just a drop in filter and a cobb flash. now if all of that is going to the front wheels, thats understeer city...
the way I see it is this is a car for someone that will do no power mods, maybe intake / exhaust for the noises...
the way I see it is this is a car for someone that will do no power mods, maybe intake / exhaust for the noises...
I had 370whp in a fwd car. I had to be more involved in driving it, but I was fine with that too. LOL it was a lot of fun due to being such a challenge.
I think I'm the target market for this car. I like everything about it. As a daily.
I'd never sell my Evo for one. That's what I take to the track.
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it occured to me that if the awd system ain't strong enough for a highly modded motor, why not just beef up the awd system, so i just spent the last few hours reminding myself how the awd system works and what the scooby921 dude wrote. first bad sign is that the guy wrote that bigger components (PTU, RDM) would be needed to make it strong enough to handle much more than stock. second bad sign is that he suggested that the awd computer code would be inaccessible. i guees one could hope that the driveline components are actually fairly strong and that its the clutches that are the weak link. not so hard to upgrade those. and then one could also hope that just like any other popular platform, someone will eventually break into the awd controller, get the rom, disassemble it, and figure out how it works. lots of ifs... lol.
It will be interesting to see how Subaru responds. Hopefully the next gen STI will be lighter and faster. http://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/su...ketches-specs/
As for the Focus RS drivetrain, I suspect Quaife will offer a solution for those wanting to add more power http://quaife.co.uk/quaife-atb-diffe...esta-focus-st/
As for the Focus RS drivetrain, I suspect Quaife will offer a solution for those wanting to add more power http://quaife.co.uk/quaife-atb-diffe...esta-focus-st/
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