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Oct 14, 2015 | 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by golgo13

For just power? Sure. I disagree that it's king in all aspects, however.

The powerband with a turbo can be peaky, which is less than desirable under some track conditions. The smoother power curve of a supercharger is often better in most cases.

True, I should have added a caveat that my statement is for higher speed tracks. For short tracks, or just tracks with lots of slower speed corners, I agree completely with you. Off the shelf supercharger kits are a bit of a limitation, but that can be worked around.

Here's one of the cars I was referring to.

http://www.westernsubaruclub.com/smf...?topic=40117.0

Oct 14, 2015 | 11:33 AM

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True, I should have added a caveat that my statement is for higher speed tracks.

It is my understanding that anyplace where you have to roll on the throttle mid-corner can be problematic (due to lag or power spikes), regardless of the average speed of the track.

That's one sweet looking BRZ! Almost makes me want to drive one. I'm a fan of the Yuzu on the Scion TRD offering though.

Oct 14, 2015 | 11:41 AM

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not to mention the injector seal issue that i brought up 2 times in this thread already

yeah guys......gosh!!!!

Oct 14, 2015 | 11:42 AM

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What about an older Porsche? Boxsters and 996s an be found pretty cheap https://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/ctd/5248475758.html

Oct 14, 2015 | 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by razorlab

The FRS/BRZ can be very fast with FI and setup well. It's a great chassis but yes that motor is a dog in NA form.

Here is an example at one of the local tracks. 1:59 is VERY fast for a street car on this track. Video below that is my buddy in his 991 GT3 (only alignment and brake fluid upgrades) at the same track for comparison (he does 1:58's)

NA BRZ's do something like 2:1X driven well. I currently do 2:07 (Street tires) in my mildly modified 10 and did a best of 2:02 (R-compounds) in my Evo 8 back in the day. A very well setup Evo 8/9, with good tires are capable of 1:57-1:59 at this track.

[url="http://youtu.be/KHSs10YnsS4"]Thunder Hill 4/13/15 - 1:59.64! - YouTube[url]

[url="http://youtu.be/IXUKipF5PPo"]1:58 laps at Thunderhill in the 991 GT3 - YouTubeurl]

thats cool and all, but if I put the same money into a miata it'll be way faster.. or I can put less money into a miata and have equal speed... but again, both turn into heavily modified project cars, which I don't want

I'm really considering the s2k right now. its kinda looking pretty great for modifying slowly as I track it...

Oct 14, 2015 | 12:20 PM

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How tall are you? I'm 6'2" and I don't really "fit" in an S2k. I definitely would not fit with a helmet on.

Oct 14, 2015 | 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by golgo13

I'm actually looking forward to that with the swapped FD. Just oil, tranny and diff from time to time.

So nice.

less headaches, for sure.

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I can't tell if this is sarcasm or if you're serious...?

there are no sarcasm tags on this forum, but it's pretty obvious i wouldn't sell my car over a $100 bottle of trans fluid :P

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miata still sounds like the better option if both supercharged

a friend of mine ran a "disco potato" turbo on his Miata for 7 years. over time, he had about $40k into the car, but NOTHING was untouched. it beat many cars and became well known in the Miata community. i guess you get what you pay for LOL. anyway, no lag, plenty of power (around 260-280 on a safe tune, IIRC), and handled like it was on rails, thanks to spherical bushings everywhere. what a great car. but still faster, for less, than an FRS, i think.
i still love the 86/BRZ, though. what a fun car. if i were buying something just for fun = Miata, but if i were going to drive it around town more often and be seen = FRS.

Oct 14, 2015 | 12:26 PM

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How tall are you? I'm 6'2" and I don't really "fit" in an S2k. I definitely would not fit with a helmet on.

6'1, I've driven an s2k once before, I fit in it. and I'll be getting a fixed bucket seat for it anyway which will sit lower than stock also.

Oct 14, 2015 | 12:26 PM

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I'm really considering the s2k right now. its kinda looking pretty great for modifying slowly as I track it...

me too. but don't tell the Evo. :P

Oct 14, 2015 | 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by nemsin

What about an older Porsche? Boxsters and 996s an be found pretty cheap https://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/ctd/5248475758.html

I looked into it, they need a decent amount of work before they can be tracked reliably. and talking to ex owners, they say maintenance on them is a nightmare. current owners say they're a gift from god ofcourse...

Oct 14, 2015 | 01:44 PM

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Go get an S2K. I can tell that's what you've wanted from the beginning.

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Oct 14, 2015 | 01:52 PM

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^its actually not.. I wanted an evo 8/9 more, I just don't think I can find one in decent condition for under 20k

Oct 14, 2015 | 01:57 PM

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^its actually not.. I wanted an evo 8/9 more, I just don't think I can find one in decent condition for under 20k

You could definitely find a nice 8 for 17-20k. 9s are more in the 21-25k range.
https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/5266873809.html

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Oct 14, 2015 | 02:00 PM

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You will find a good 8 for 17-20. You're just going to need to be patient to find the car you want.

Oct 14, 2015 | 02:03 PM

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^its actually not.. I wanted an evo 8/9 more, I just don't think I can find one in decent condition for under 20k

Okay.

With the S2K, everything is going to cost you less with the exception of the car itself (prices are on the rise, just like the Lotus Elise) and a hard top if you wanted to run that.