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View Poll Results: What do you think of the SRT4?
The car is sick!! I\'d get one in a second...
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The performance is nuts, but the styling sucks
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28.03%
It\'s alright for the money
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31.21%
If I had nothing but money I\'d get one
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8.92%
They suck, i\'ll never buy one!
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Old Nov 16, 2003 | 02:51 PM
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Originally posted by meisnerboy
that is sweet!

crazy qustion but because it's mopar does that meen it is coverd under warantee?

know how much for stage 2 and 3?
If you were to ask the warranty question on the srt boards you'd get eaten alive...lol. Its been beat to death as much as the evo vs srt debate.

If you had to take it in to the dealer for whatever reason and they can NOT prove that your S1, S2 or S3 is the cause of that SPECIFIC problem, then your good to go.

Stage 2 is rumored to cost between $1000-$1500 msrp. We'll see.
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Old Nov 16, 2003 | 03:16 PM
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personally....i don't like the srt4...is just wayyyyyyyyy too ugly. inside look like any other old dodge....look like a rentel car...although the evo is not much better...but it doesn't look like a rentel car....and performance...i guess srt4 is pretty good
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Old Nov 16, 2003 | 03:52 PM
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hmm with 1500 dollars in the evo it would beat any srt4 with 1500 dollars in it
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Old Nov 16, 2003 | 07:42 PM
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Originally posted by the evo wins
hmm with 1500 dollars in the evo it would beat any srt4 with 1500 dollars in it
In a road race with twists and turns probably but in a straight race or 5-60 or 0-150 I think the SRT4 would still win. Evo would have the SRT4 with 0-60 though.

Still, and especially considering the price, this car is as impressive as hell.

Lighter than the evo and about 10k less.

But... I wish it wasn't fwd and had the hadeling stats that the evo does.

I want to give a personal shout out thanks to Dodge for making Subaru and Mitsubishi sweat their ***** off because of the SRT4. Great going Dodge.

I smell the evoMR and STi RA or spec C coming to our shores very very soon. (at an even lower price)

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Old Nov 17, 2003 | 10:04 PM
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I take it you've never driver an Evo or a Miata. The Miata has a huge weight advantage over the Evo but you'd never think that after driving both of them back to back. The Miata feels far heavier than the Evo and handles like mud in comparison. Yes, I have driven both back to back more than once. IMO there are very few cars that handle as well as the Evo and the Miata certainly ain't one of 'em.

Originally posted by meisnerboy
If your answer is that the evo handles better, well yes it does but it is no miata or S2000 with a perfect 50/50 weight split.
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Old Nov 17, 2003 | 10:28 PM
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Originally posted by mikec
I take it you've never driver an Evo or a Miata. The Miata has a huge weight advantage over the Evo but you'd never think that after driving both of them back to back. The Miata feels far heavier than the Evo and handles like mud in comparison. Yes, I have driven both back to back more than once. IMO there are very few cars that handle as well as the Evo and the Miata certainly ain't one of 'em.

The Miata feels far heavier because it has the power of a heavy duty Kenmore washing machine motor. Put the power of an evo into a miata and it's a whole different story though. The Miata and S2000 are perfectly balanced cars with a 50/50 weight split. The evo is not. This translates into a much much better handling car as well.

As for weight. That is something I HATE about the evo (and wrx that I presently own). Too damn heavy.

I want the power and handling of the evo in the balanced car like the S2000 with the weight of a miata. The Dpdge Razor may be that car if it ever comes out or if not something else will in these great horsepower wars. Again, thanks SRT4 pushing it up another notch.

And yes, I have driven both the Miata and evo.
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Old Nov 17, 2003 | 10:31 PM
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Originally posted by onet0nsoup
personally....i don't like the srt4...is just wayyyyyyyyy too ugly.
Man, wrx, evo, srt4, sti - all ugly.

Their power is beautiful though and somehow that makes them beautiful too in their own way.
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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 10:53 AM
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Well, with any car that is 20k it's going to be lacking something somewhere. For instance, I have a tiburon which is in the same class as the srt, but out cars couldn't keep up with any of the neons. On the other hand, in my opinion the tibs look better and have great interiors as where the neons are lacking. Basically, any car that 20k is not going to have the full package like a 30+ car or the companies would lose alot of money. No one will ever make a car the has good styling,interior,and performance for 20k. Anyway, just my .02
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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 03:58 PM
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Originally posted by jerzeytib
Well, with any car that is 20k it's going to be lacking something somewhere. For instance, I have a tiburon which is in the same class as the srt, but out cars couldn't keep up with any of the neons. On the other hand, in my opinion the tibs look better and have great interiors as where the neons are lacking. Basically, any car that 20k is not going to have the full package like a 30+ car or the companies would lose alot of money. No one will ever make a car the has good styling,interior,and performance for 20k. Anyway, just my .02
I agree with you. The Tiburon is a better looking car.

But I don't agree with you that no one will put looks and power togather for under 20k.

The Dodge Razor is a concept car which looks great. It is a 2 seater, rwd and if introduced will be under 20k and is very light. It would also have similar engine components to the SRT4. If ever made this car would be one hell of a sports car.

Also, looks isn't a big deal. There are lots of cars that look great for under 20k. The Tiburon and Miata are two that come to mind. The SRT4 has shown you can get all the power too for under 20k. I'm sure we'll get it all soon.
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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 04:22 PM
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Originally posted by meisnerboy

The Miata feels far heavier because it has the power of a heavy duty Kenmore washing machine motor. Put the power of an evo into a miata and it's a whole different story though. The Miata and S2000 are perfectly balanced cars with a 50/50 weight split. The evo is not. This translates into a much much better handling car as well.
No. What I'm talking about is the way the Miata feels when traveling 5 or 50mph. It's a very slow reacting vehicle and feels disconnected/insulated from the road. While I agree with you that it's underpowered, its handling deficiencies have little to do with its lack of power. In contrast, the Evo feels totally neutral in its balance and translates steering input directly to the road w/o hesitation. Like I said, these two cars couldn't feel further apart and IMO aren't in the same handling league. The Evo handles like a true rally/race car, while the Miata handles like a race car wannabe.
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 01:51 PM
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Evo vs. Neon SRT

I dont know if this topic has been raised here yet, but a few of us from a Nissan forum were arguing about this. Supposedly, there is a friend in Arizona who just bought a Neon SRT and took it to the track to run a 13.8 1/4 mile. That was fast enough to beat an Evo that was also there that day.

Both cars were stock. Unfortunately, the Neon is $10,000 cheaper but competing with the Evo. Kind of like how the Evo is $20,000 cheaper than the Corvette but it still competes with that... there is always has the bigger (or faster) fish in the sea...

Anyone think the Neon is worth it?
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 01:57 PM
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Srt-4 is pretty cool, but the cars were made for two different types of racing. Neon=straight, Evo=corners. It doesn't suprise me at all that the Srt-4 got a stock time like that, but it will never compete with the evo through some twists and turns.

If you just want to go straight save yourself the money and go Neon. ****, all the money you save you can dump into the engine and dominate everyone.
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 02:01 PM
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i would buy one...i think they are choice. but im a mitsu fan
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 02:03 PM
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Originally posted by evofan@scorp's
Srt-4 is pretty cool, but the cars were made for two different types of racing. Neon=straight, Evo=corners. It doesn't suprise me at all that the Srt-4 got a stock time like that, but it will never compete with the evo through some twists and turns.

If you just want to go straight save yourself the money and go Neon. ****, all the money you save you can dump into the engine and dominate everyone.
lol, thats what im saying. you know what we can do to a neon with the 10 grand left over??? And on top of that, the car is domestic so maintenance is cheaper and so is the insurance... the "little neon that could" is now a freakin rocket.

However, despite that, I still really really really want an evo....
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 02:07 PM
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IF you do not launch the EVO it will run 13.8+

If you launch the EVO will run 13.5 -

Heres proof

http://www.dsmtimes.org/evo.htm


Many people forget you need skill to drag race. I've seen old guys in Vipers run 14.

When you launch an EVO all 4 wheels bite and give the car a tremendous boost. Once the car is moving the spooled turbo takes the car to the finish line.

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