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Old Oct 24, 2011 | 05:57 AM
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When did you check it? I noticed wednesday that the price had gone up


I check it everytime I get it, Sheetz did go up .05 again One nice thing about Sheetz is (at least all last year) they don't switch to winter grade, last winter it was E86-E88 all winter, Getgo was E78.
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Old Oct 24, 2011 | 10:12 AM
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the end is nigh:

Mitsubishi Confirms Hybrid 2014 Evo XI, Diesel Still On the Table
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Old Oct 24, 2011 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by MondoBongo
Rubbish.

Every generation gets panned and then lauded. Mitsu is on the right path. Making cars fun while still meeting ever tightening regulations. The current generation motors produce 75% less emissions then the previous ones pre catalyst. That's huge. The DSG is often pointed to as one of the best in the business. The IX is STILL the standard for steering feedback and feel 6 years on. All high praise for a sub 40k car that continues to evolve with the times.

Mitsu built a concept a few years ago that threw out complex awd drive trains and just had four electric motors, one on each wheel. Done right that could really be something.

One day they might even build a glove box that doesn't rattle.
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Old Oct 25, 2011 | 12:08 PM
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About this time of year you will start running into issues. Starting is fine its pulling out of the driveway and up hills that is the issue when the motor is stone cold. I never had an issue starting my car down to high teen's temp wise, but my evo is stock with a stock battery.

My DSM is more picky due to the lower compression on the stock engine. So bad that I put 92 octane in it then will add a gallon or two of E85 if needed. Still runs 11.2 like that on bald RE01R's and a 16g, faster on the slicks .

The evo is on the evo 9 ecu and ID1000's. The DSM is on the evo 8 ecu and ID1000 or ID2000 depending on what setup I have in the car at the time.

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Yeah I definitely noticed the lack of low end. I had to change my route to work due to a couple of stop signs and having to start up hill.

Starting was my main problem tho, I am willing to give it a minute or two usually to warm up. I started adding startup IPW but it still wouldn't seem to catch sometimes, I referenced another ROM and noticed that my startup adders were pretty low. That got me by but I got tired of playing around drained the mini battery Friday morning and had to jump it. Once was enough for me. I just switched back to 93. I will park it soon anyways.

Did you have to add some extra startup fuel? Or mess with startup timing tables (I have not touched these yet)
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Old Oct 25, 2011 | 05:51 PM
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I have a request. I just got a several gauges for my car. I'm having trouble getting the boost gauge - AEM TRUBOOST - to work. I think my wiring is right. I have power to my oil pressure and A/F gage. Is there anyone local that has this gauge? I would like to plug it in to see if I have a bad gauge or not. Thanks.
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Old Oct 25, 2011 | 07:01 PM
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i have one in my car im like 40 mins from pitts down buy weirton
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Old Oct 25, 2011 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by MondoBongo
Originally Posted by Evol.ved
Rubbish.

Every generation gets panned and then lauded. Mitsu is on the right path. Making cars fun while still meeting ever tightening regulations. The current generation motors produce 75% less emissions then the previous ones pre catalyst. That's huge. The DSG is often pointed to as one of the best in the business. The IX is STILL the standard for steering feedback and feel 6 years on. All high praise for a sub 40k car that continues to evolve with the times.

Mitsu built a concept a few years ago that threw out complex awd drive trains and just had four electric motors, one on each wheel. Done right that could really be something.

One day they might even build a glove box that doesn't rattle.
Incredigay. How could you say Mitsu is "on the right path" Dave? They are turning a legend into a Prius. They have a very unique halo car that they could have built a company around (like Subaru has done with their STI/WRX/Impreza), but instead are embracing hybrid/EV technology in a sports car. Save that crap for the soccer moms in their Outlanders. They are dooming themselves to being an even more boring and irrelevant car company. I'm also aware of stricter emissions standards, but its not like they have V8s in their cars. They can afford to have one car that is a little thirsty on gas and not be a boring shadow of itself.
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 05:20 AM
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Okay, a few things with your comments Dave.

Subaru did not build their company around the STI/WRX. Not even close

Why do you think that Mitsu should build a car for their smallest market? In fact, a market that really can't afford these car usually. They sell way more outlanders then EVO's.

Have you seen some of the "green" race cars out there? They are plenty fast.

I just think its funny how people are in an uproar that they are killing the EVO. Why do you think that car company's are pulling out of motorsports. Because, having a race car in your lineup does not sell cars anymore.
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Canexican
Incredigay. How could you say Mitsu is "on the right path" Dave? They are turning a legend into a Prius. They have a very unique halo car that they could have built a company around (like Subaru has done with their STI/WRX/Impreza), but instead are embracing hybrid/EV technology in a sports car. Save that crap for the soccer moms in their Outlanders. They are dooming themselves to being an even more boring and irrelevant car company. I'm also aware of stricter emissions standards, but its not like they have V8s in their cars. They can afford to have one car that is a little thirsty on gas and not be a boring shadow of itself.
i'm not denying that a hybrid evo *could* be amazingly awesome.

however, mitsu seems to have a problem with taking really cool ideas and then f*cking them up trying to implement them.

who knows, maybe it will be awesome? i would love an evo that got 30mpg when i was just cruising.
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 06:38 AM
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So, if they build a fully electric car that can go faster down the strip, would that be okay even if it get 50mpg?

I think it's cool to see new technology coming into the market. It could be a great car!
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by jerdeitzel
So, if they build a fully electric car that can go faster down the strip, would that be okay even if it get 50mpg?

I think it's cool to see new technology coming into the market. It could be a great car!
it *could* be. could being the operative word. i don't know that i trust mitsu to do it right. i will withhold judgement though until it gets released. who knows, maybe for once they will get something right.
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 07:02 AM
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Your right. I just don't want to count them out at this point.
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Canexican
Incredigay. How could you say Mitsu is "on the right path" Dave? They are turning a legend into a Prius. They have a very unique halo car that they could have built a company around (like Subaru has done with their STI/WRX/Impreza), but instead are embracing hybrid/EV technology in a sports car. Save that crap for the soccer moms in their Outlanders. They are dooming themselves to being an even more boring and irrelevant car company. I'm also aware of stricter emissions standards, but its not like they have V8s in their cars. They can afford to have one car that is a little thirsty on gas and not be a boring shadow of itself.
I appreciate your point of view and beleive me I get it. They're changing the cars and they're not getting any faster in a straight line, they're heavier and have more do dads you don't want. Here are my thoughts.


Mitsu wants to make cars that meet ever tightening regulations and consumer demands that are still amusing. That's a hard combination. Most manufacturers have just given up at this point. Most dealers don't even stock EVO's anymore. Sad commentary on sales when they don't even keep one on the lot. They'll even tell you that it is a pain to stock them since those who come in and want to drive it can't afford it.


New V8's are more often then not more fuel efficent and produce less emissions then our turbo 4's do. Just look at the Corvette motors. If it's awd, fast and reliable. I'm not going to be upset if there are two extra batteries in the trunk instead of the one thats there now. In fact I welcome it if it replaces some of the complex failure prone mechanical differentials we have now. Mitsu isn't marketing the EVO to younger guys who can't afford it. They're marketing it to me. Thirty-fourty something males with higher then average discretionary incomes who are really wowed by the technological wizardry of the cars.

and don't mind a rattling glove box...
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by MondoBongo
it *could* be. could being the operative word. i don't know that i trust mitsu to do it right. i will withhold judgement though until it gets released. who knows, maybe for once they will get something right.

They always seem to get the drivetrain right. It's stupid crap like interior build quality where they go wrong.
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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 11:56 AM
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