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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 10:01 AM
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Going to be a fun snappy combo. You have that brand new hotside though. I would go with an FP green
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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 11:33 AM
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I dont want that much power, just quick response and to make power to redline. Plus the car is going to be light. Im really excited. Dropped off the hotside, manifold and O2 at Boostin for porting then off to Swaintech for their white-lightning coating.

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Old Nov 6, 2017 | 12:41 PM
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Still waiting on the motor to get done. Boostin was away for the WCF Import Vs Domestic races.

Mean time I had my throttle body cleaned and sealed with milspec seals. Also want to do a GM IAT/MAT sensor for SD. I'm also thinking of a grimspeed 3port boost solenoid and to get away from my Greddy Profec Spec2 EBC.

Complicates things as I already deleted the MAF/OE Boost solenoid wiring. DOH













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Old Nov 6, 2017 | 12:50 PM
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Did you remove those wires all the way back to the ECU? Hopefully you kept the pins if you did that..
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Old Nov 6, 2017 | 02:18 PM
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Did you remove those wires all the way back to the ECU? Hopefully you kept the pins if you did that..
I did. Even for EGR/EVAP/FPR Solenoid.

Luckily I found an old thread about the pins and their part#. So ordered 25 of each big/little pin.

I also was looking at a Spal fan in place of the heavy *** fan/shroud. Maybe wire it into the OE fan controller or just run an in cabin switch/relay. I removed the AC fan on the outside of the radiator.
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Old Nov 6, 2017 | 02:24 PM
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My car has a 12" spal fan wired to the stock controller. Works just fine. I did ramp up the duty cycles in the tune though. I would also suggest getting an aluminum rad if you heavn't yet. The stock plastic tanks tend to fail. CSF makes a pretty nice piece that includes a fan.
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Old Nov 6, 2017 | 03:11 PM
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Ive got a Koyo Evo 6 rad and cap.
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Old Nov 6, 2017 | 04:20 PM
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Gotcha. Yeah, I wouldn't hesitate to build a small shroud and put a 12" spal fan on it.
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Old Nov 7, 2017 | 07:40 AM
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A word of caution on the slim fan: The STM sealed catch can takes up a bunch of space down low in the engine bay with the 3-port and OEM fan controller. I ended up ordering some different fittings to route everything how I wanted and it was still a tight fit with a Flex-a-lite 123 shrouded 12" fan. It barely cleared my WGA and everything sort of fit perfectly at the end but make sure you plan out your space.
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Old Nov 7, 2017 | 08:22 AM
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Since you guys are on the topic of radiators I figured I'd pose my question here as I know we have common interests and goals. Im looking to upgrade my factory radiator to something that will offer at last the same amount of cooling as the factory setup if not more but allow me to shed some weight as well.

The two radiators that I'm targeting are the CBRD one as it seems to be very well built cools well and I think drops some weight too although I'd have to look back at those numbers and see if thats including the fan as well. The other one that has piqued my interest is the CSF AL radiator. There are actually 2 here that seem interesting one of which is just the radiator and the other incluses a fan and shroud. Im curious if those two units are the same radiators except one just adds the fan as well? The online specs sugguest that they are completely different cores and it may be worth reaching out to CSF just wasnt sure if anyone had feedback on them?

https://www.rallysportdirect.com/par...minum-radiator
https://www.rallysportdirect.com/par...fan-and-shroud

EDIT: Just found weight specs for the CBRD unit. Dont want to hijack your thread so if you feel I am Ill delete this post and start my own

OEM radiator dry: 10lb 3.4oz
OEM radiator wet: 15lb 8.6oz
OEM radiator fan: 8lb 11.6oz
total OEM weight wet: 24lb 4.2oz


CBRD radiator dry: 8lb 7.8oz
CBRD radiator wet: 14lb 14.6oz
spal slimline fan: 3lb 10oz
total CBRD+spal fan weight wet: 18lb 8.6oz

weight difference radiator only wet: 10oz
weight difference with fans: 5lb 11.6oz

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Old Nov 7, 2017 | 09:46 AM
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The CBRD doesn't fit right. The top tank touches/rubs against the AC condenser.


I have the CSF7075 on my car, it works great.
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Old Nov 7, 2017 | 10:38 AM
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No condenser on my car no care, lol!

Oh so you have the fancy CSF one on your car? This badboy?https://www.rallysportdirect.com/par...fan-and-shroud

You think it was worth the extra money over their cheaper one? Seems like the price nearly doubles for a fan and a shroud which is more like a fan mounting tab than shroud IMO.

Thats the one I really curious on...also you didnt happen to weight it by chance did you?
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Old Nov 7, 2017 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by heel2toe
Since you guys are on the topic of radiators I figured I'd pose my question here as I know we have common interests and goals. Im looking to upgrade my factory radiator to something that will offer at last the same amount of cooling as the factory setup if not more but allow me to shed some weight as well.

The two radiators that I'm targeting are the CBRD one as it seems to be very well built cools well and I think drops some weight too although I'd have to look back at those numbers and see if thats including the fan as well. The other one that has piqued my interest is the CSF AL radiator. There are actually 2 here that seem interesting one of which is just the radiator and the other incluses a fan and shroud. Im curious if those two units are the same radiators except one just adds the fan as well? The online specs sugguest that they are completely different cores and it may be worth reaching out to CSF just wasnt sure if anyone had feedback on them?

https://www.rallysportdirect.com/par...minum-radiator
https://www.rallysportdirect.com/par...fan-and-shroud

EDIT: Just found weight specs for the CBRD unit. Dont want to hijack your thread so if you feel I am Ill delete this post and start my own

OEM radiator dry: 10lb 3.4oz
OEM radiator wet: 15lb 8.6oz
OEM radiator fan: 8lb 11.6oz
total OEM weight wet: 24lb 4.2oz


CBRD radiator dry: 8lb 7.8oz
CBRD radiator wet: 14lb 14.6oz
spal slimline fan: 3lb 10oz
total CBRD+spal fan weight wet: 18lb 8.6oz

weight difference radiator only wet: 10oz
weight difference with fans: 5lb 11.6oz
Yeah the CBRD kit saves weight only via light weight fan. Fitment aside, its a good OE type replacement but all aluminum. Not sure if it moves the radiator hose away from the exhaust manifold, but I thought getting an Evo 6 Koyo was a cool way to accomplish this. Also I am not sure a fan shroud is necessary for a track car. I can see sitting in traffic it'd make sense but otherwise I'll spare the weight. I like the idea of using the OE fan controller which can then be "tuned" in the ECU, but I also like the idea of a switch so I can just turn it on and leave it on after a session for example. Undecided on that part.

I'm sure the Koyo is bigger/heavier, and holds more fluid but I've used them before and like the quality.

I just got a 10% off STM coupon so might order the sealed catch can. I'd like to mount it somewhere else than the nose of the car off the trans.
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Old Nov 7, 2017 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by heel2toe
No condenser on my car no care, lol!

Oh so you have the fancy CSF one on your car? This badboy?https://www.rallysportdirect.com/par...fan-and-shroud

You think it was worth the extra money over their cheaper one? Seems like the price nearly doubles for a fan and a shroud which is more like a fan mounting tab than shroud IMO.

Thats the one I really curious on...also you didnt happen to weight it by chance did you?
The core is different as well. And you get the Evo 6 style upper rad hose location. It also comes with 16an fittings if you wanted to use AN line and fitting for your water hoses.
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Old Nov 7, 2017 | 11:28 AM
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^Ahh all good info thanks for that. All I need to know now is the weight so I might need to call them. I do like the VI style rad hose granted its not really necessary for my car with a factory EM. Certainly looks cleaner however.

So where is the best place to get a deal on one of those CSF radiators?

Im just thinking I want something all aluminum as it should be more durable granted my OEM has worked great for all these years. The other thing is it has some bling status(lol) but if I can save weight too then Im all for it. But as said above the weight savings is really from the fan. But having a complete kit is nice.

Regarding a shroud and fan topic the way I see it is the following. Fan helps to cool the radiator down at low speeds where there is minimal airflow. So its almost as if a fan on a track car that is seeing sustained high speeds isnt really doing much. Will it be beneficial maybe? But on that point something like a shroud which can help direct air through the radiator might even yield cooler temps on a track car at speed vs utilizing a fan.

Am I saying get rid of the fan? Nope. But I think the shroud might be more important than we think.
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