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Old Apr 2, 2016 | 04:53 PM
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Low speed, high gear pull:

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Old Apr 2, 2016 | 05:46 PM
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http://www.carscoops.com/2016/03/for...s-to-test.html

Ford Has Trained ‘Listeners’ To Test Every Focus RS Engine

Is this a real job? Where do we send our resumes?

Ford has a specially-trained team that perform auditory tests on every 350PS 2.3-litre EcoBoost engine that comes out of their factory in Valencia, Spain to ensure the highest possible quality before even the powertrain goes into a Focus RS.

“This team knows what a perfectly calibrated engine sounds like and they know the tiny sounds to listen for in case there is a problem,” said Gunnar Herrmann, vice president, Quality, Ford of Europe. “Think of it like a doctor who has the most advanced diagnostic technology but still uses a stethoscope to gather vital clues to a patient’s health.”

Every member of this team has spent months in training their ears in order to pick up imperfections in less than a minute during these tests, which take place in specially prepared sound-proofed cells.

The 350PS version of Ford’s 2.3-litre EcoBoost has been specially developed specifically for the needs of the latest Focus RS, allowing it to accelerate from zero to 100km/h (0-62mph) in 4.7 seconds and onto a top speed of 266km/h (165mph).





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Old Apr 2, 2016 | 05:59 PM
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Serious marketing there.... ahaha
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Old Apr 2, 2016 | 07:51 PM
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Agreed. Was that released on April 1? LOL
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Old Apr 3, 2016 | 12:34 PM
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Old Apr 4, 2016 | 01:23 PM
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so basically they're listening for knock...
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Old Apr 4, 2016 | 06:27 PM
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0-60 is the standard though. You could not even find 5-60 info on most cars.
C&D has reported 5-60 (along with 30-50 and 50-70 in top gear) for every car they've tested for... I don't know, probably the last 20 or 30 years? When I was a teenager, C&D always had a table of every car they'd tested in the past 5 years, which had 5-60 times.

A very quick Googling gives me:

IX RS 8.0 (seems high)
VI 6.5
VIII 6.6
Lancer RA 7.7

Most of the other rags have stopped testing since that involves actual work, instead just blabbing on about feel and such. But rolling acceleration was a common test. Motor Blend sometimes included an utterly meaningless 45-65 "passing" speed (which is just part of their 1/4 mile run from which they derive every acceleration number). R&T sometimes included 5-60. Automobile usually just copy-pastes the MFRs numbers.


But honestly, this is what most buyers "feel" in terms of acceleration. I've launched any car I've owned maybe 4 times in my life. But 5-60 is a daily part of my commute.
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Old Apr 4, 2016 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by WestSideBilly
C&D has reported 5-60 (along with 30-50 and 50-70 in top gear) for every car they've tested for... I don't know, probably the last 20 or 30 years? When I was a teenager, C&D always had a table of every car they'd tested in the past 5 years, which had 5-60 times.

A very quick Googling gives me:

IX RS 8.0 (seems high)
VI 6.5
VIII 6.6
Lancer RA 7.7

Most of the other rags have stopped testing since that involves actual work, instead just blabbing on about feel and such. But rolling acceleration was a common test. Motor Blend sometimes included an utterly meaningless 45-65 "passing" speed (which is just part of their 1/4 mile run from which they derive every acceleration number). R&T sometimes included 5-60. Automobile usually just copy-pastes the MFRs numbers.


But honestly, this is what most buyers "feel" in terms of acceleration. I've launched any car I've owned maybe 4 times in my life. But 5-60 is a daily part of my commute.
Oh stop with your real world reasoning and actual analytics...



"You could not even find 5-60 on most cars"

Unless you actually looked...
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Old Apr 4, 2016 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by WestSideBilly
number, info, numbers, info
.. But 5-60 is a daily part of my commute.
all day, e'ry day.
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Old Apr 5, 2016 | 12:37 AM
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Car and Driver quarter mile exit speed of 105mph I believe shows the heft damping the power: despite good aero and surely optimized gearing to "make the numbers".

The cornering at 0.98 G on standard rubber, and likely slightly over 1G on optional rubber, is indeed excellent performance on skid pad.

The Drift Mode they say does not at all work as expected, instead it barely hints at the rear wagging and the moment you so much as apply minimum opposite lock the electronics arrest the drift/slide.

All in all, good value for $35K. But not some stellar performance: its performance at this moment just highlights the relative numbness of current STi and absence of Evo.
Bmw M2 is quiet a bit more expensive, but far more accomplished from what I can see.

Golf R on the other hand is worthy rival: certainly faster, and frankly seems similarly capable on any given road: more upmarket interior and build quality are also in VW favor.

If rear diff holds, than it could be nice ride with EFR7670 or even 8374 bolt-on kit (FFTec).
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Old Apr 5, 2016 | 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by alpinaturbo
Car and Driver quarter mile exit speed of 105mph I believe shows the heft damping the power: despite good aero and surely optimized gearing to "make the numbers".

The cornering at 0.98 G on standard rubber, and likely slightly over 1G on optional rubber, is indeed excellent performance on skid pad.

The Drift Mode they say does not at all work as expected, instead it barely hints at the rear wagging and the moment you so much as apply minimum opposite lock the electronics arrest the drift/slide.

All in all, good value for $35K. But not some stellar performance: its performance at this moment just highlights the relative numbness of current STi and absence of Evo.
Bmw M2 is quiet a bit more expensive, but far more accomplished from what I can see.

Golf R on the other hand is worthy rival: certainly faster, and frankly seems similarly capable on any given road: more upmarket interior and build quality are also in VW favor.

If rear diff holds, than it could be nice ride with EFR7670 or even 8374 bolt-on kit (FFTec).

http://m.ebay.com/itm/162027743755?roken=cUgayN&_mwBanner=1


there always alternatives
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Old Apr 5, 2016 | 08:15 AM
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Old Cossie was never a good drivers car, GrN cars were so standard that they carried all downsides of Cossie being built on shortened Sierra chassis without single inprovement.

Gr.A cars were better but parts are very expensive to upgrade: uprights, all suspension arms, subframes, everything is "homologation special"=expensive and small step forward.
WRC chassis is whole new again, and even more expensive!

Standard Evo is better chassis than any of them.
I've tried to buy couple of them, including McRay real Recce official Ford Motorsport built car in 1999, and GrA car with many fixings including 6 speed dog box and much more: upon all out research on how and what with numerous resources, speaking with Mike Rainbird who is UK authority on Cossie for amateur racers- and who owns Evo & Cossie, it became evident it's never going to be what I expect/hope: modern cars were better off showroom floor!
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Old Apr 5, 2016 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by alpinaturbo

Golf R on the other hand is worthy rival: certainly faster, and frankly seems similarly capable on any given road: more upmarket interior and build quality are also in VW favor.
This is where paper stats never tell the whole story. While the MK7 Golf R is better than the MK6 Golf R, it is still a bit bland to drive.

Also, build quality and VW should never be used in the same sentence.
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Old Apr 5, 2016 | 01:41 PM
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Maybe not reliability, but material and fit/finish are definitely better in the VW compared to the Ford.
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Old Apr 5, 2016 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by alpinaturbo
Old Cossie was never a good drivers car, GrN cars were so standard that they carried all downsides of Cossie being built on shortened Sierra chassis without single inprovement.

Gr.A cars were better but parts are very expensive to upgrade: uprights, all suspension arms, subframes, everything is "homologation special"=expensive and small step forward.
WRC chassis is whole new again, and even more expensive!

Standard Evo is better chassis than any of them.
I've tried to buy couple of them, including McRay real Recce official Ford Motorsport built car in 1999, and GrA car with many fixings including 6 speed dog box and much more: upon all out research on how and what with numerous resources, speaking with Mike Rainbird who is UK authority on Cossie for amateur racers- and who owns Evo & Cossie, it became evident it's never going to be what I expect/hope: modern cars were better off showroom floor!

truth, but still unique

Evo was the best option hands down from, show room. Proven decades racing history etc. So said they stop making them. Any how hopefully the new RS will live up to the hype what they created around it. So the Evo will be missed less that way.
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