A cheap setup on a car is still going to cost as much or more then a cart.

Then it's also going to cost more to maintain and repair.

 

Bingo... Cheapest set-up for a car I can think of for all around cheapedness is a Spec Miata... Buy a good used one for 9-15k... But you still have a 9-15k investment rather than a 2-6k investment (and 6k is like a brand new kart). I've thought about spec miata, but in order for it to be any fun for me I'd have to buy a truck/suv/etc to trailer it out there with too so I didn't have to deal with changing everything once I got to the track.

 

You can insure a car @ the track as long as you are not in a timed event.
The rates are as follows:

3% premium based on the actual cash value of the vehicle. For collector cars and agreed value must be established on the primary insurance coverage and must be corroborated on manheimgold.com. An appraisal may be necessary to properly bind coverage for AV.

The deductibles are as follows:
$0-$25k - $1,000
$25,001-$50k - $2,000
$50,001-$75k - $3,000
$75,001-$100k - $4,000
$100,001-$125k - $5,000

So if you totaled your 25K Evo during a PDX or HPDE the most it would cost is 1750.00. 750 for your premium and 1k for deductible.
The 750 premium is for 1 year of coverage and an unlimited number of events.

 

Porsche 914's are good handlers. Did you see a recent Sport Compact Car mag that had a WRX motor in one with 285/35/18's in the rear.
My dad had one and even with the 1.8L VW aircooler it came with, with some 195/50/15's, she sure handled good.
Chris

 

who can you get track insurance through? is there an option to cover timed events?

i was under the impression that most standard street policies out there will cover damage incurred at a track as long as it is not a timed event.

 

I couldn't tell you anything about track insurance.

And I was under the impression that Mitsubishi would cover an engine that broke from oil starvation under the first 3k miles... But... Hey, impressions aren't everything. People in this world want to make money, or keep their hands on their own.

 

Snelling Walters. Timed events will cost a whole lot more.

Good luck with that claim.

 

ya the one my uncle might give me has some 2.4l rebuilt motor but it still only has like 130 hp. i know it is a light car but i would like somewhere around 200whp so maybe go forced induction on the motor it has or drop something hott into it. do you know of a place that would do work on one of these??

 

You can build a fun track car for $5K. It's called a Honda Civic Hatch. Jason's EG was plenty fast out at the track and he didn't have that much into it.

 

I agree with the street car/ track car point.

A street car will only ever be as aggressive as you can handle on the street (for some the suspension i already run is unbearable). You would not want a cage on the street, or spherical joints, custom control arms that rust in the winter, etc.

Plus you have to comprimise on the suspension settings. A race alignment will be hard on street tires, but is beneficial on the track. A street alignment is hard on track tires and will wear the shoulder off quick with little or no camber.

These points are all aside from cost and downtime of a single car that have already been expressed.

I plan on building a dedicated track car (most likely a bmw e36), and to get around the truck-trailer horsecrap i rented a garage at miller.

I love the evolution, but the build on that is around $40-60k, where the bmw will be closer to 15-20k.

I think the moral of the story here is, if you are serious about it, a street car is not the way to go. If you track occasionally, a comprimise can be made.

The one thing in common with both scenarios is that it will not be cheap either way.

 

hey erich or adam, your friend with the black evo VIII that made 370whp on your dyno what all has he done to his car it just felt so fast. i know that he has the hks 280's intercooler, piping, stock turbo, ebay mani, tbe, injectors, and standalone. but i dont see how cams injectors and a standalone would put him a whole 70whp over where i am since i think i have all of the same boltons that he has. am i missing anything from his setup?? does he run meth or did he make those numbers on like racegas or something?? what boost levels is he running?? thanks

 

i'm the guy with that black evo VIII. I did make 370whp on 91 pump gas and stock turbo @ 21 lbs. boost. I have 880 injectors and 280 cams and aem ems. the reason that I made all that power is from the tune. joe sim from turbo laboratories down here in orem did a really good job on my car. the power feels smooth and strong.

you guys should see my map. i made a lot of torque. the torque stays flat and didn't drop.

now, I just re-tuned the car for a safe track setup. I made 356whp @ 19 lbs. boost stock turbo.

good luck. let me know if you need help on anything.

Thx, Allen

 

thanks allen, i kinda want to go with the same setup you have but without the aem and maybe with an fpgreen and 780 injectors instead of 880's. i am still looking for what cams i want i am considering hks 280's after riding in your car but am also looking at either gsc's for midrange, revolvers, or maybe even some jun 264's. i'll have to do some more research on this though as i dont have the $$ yet.
i am looking to hit around the same power levels as you

 

The garages are too expensive when you're trying to save money, but yes, they're far better way to go than the truck-trailer thing, since that'll be cheaper.

5k for a decent civic hatch would be really cool, that'd be a fun little track car... Too bad you still run into the same problem of garage/trailer-truck mix... And you have to find a civic hatch in decent shape. I want one of the mid 90s AWD turbo Eclipses for cheap, I think that would be a fun track car...

 

no maf & tuning a aem=30whp
cams=20whp
i'm pretty sure that car has a exedy twin in it which is lighter then the stock setup..
there you have it pretty easily really