Notices

Evo 8 News as Of 3/6/04

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 1, 2004 | 04:41 PM
  #241  
peterd's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
I'll see if I can get some pics for you guys today.

I think you will love the cars. The EVO are an awesome machine, and I'm sure the 8 will be an improvement on any EVO built so far.
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2004 | 05:51 PM
  #242  
Evo8DownUnder's Avatar
Evolving Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 337
Likes: 0
From: Forster, NSW Australia
I'm not that intense about the whole thing - I recently sold my BMW, and have bought a little second-hand Holden Combo for work, that I am driving around at the moment, so I don't have to rack up lots of k's on the Evo doing menial work thingys.

I tell you, driving the Combo makes even driving my wife's VX SS seem an other-worldly experience, so I can't begin to think how much of an impression the Evo will make on me once it arrives!

Of all my cars I have owned - and it's quite the 'budget performance' collection - far and away the best car was the CC Lancer GSR. It was even better than the much-faster WRX, and dodgy second/third/fourth-hand Evo4. I have been hanging out for a release of new Evos as I just wanted the 'next level' of Lancer so much that the waiting just makes it even more enticing from my perspective. The reviews have made the waiting even better.

Reply
Old Jul 1, 2004 | 08:36 PM
  #243  
astondg's Avatar
Evolving Member
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 311
Likes: 0
From: Australia
From what I have seen the SS will probably be similar in straight line performance, it might be quicker from a roll, but I am sure the Evolution VIII will blow it away on anything other than a straight road. It should be considerably quicker in the wet too.

Aston
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2004 | 08:51 PM
  #244  
THX1138's Avatar
Thread Starter
Evolving Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 223
Likes: 0
From: Perth, Western Australia
From what I have seen the SS will probably be similar in straight line performance, it might be quicker from a roll, but I am sure the Evolution VIII will blow it away on anything other than a straight road. It should be considerably quicker in the wet too.

Aston
[puts flamesuit on] *wink*

I'd like to rebutt that. The SS is a great car. Full of power, yes. The official specs and times on the EVO are way off, I am very sure of that. The WRX standard has a power of 168kw, but fractionally lighter. The official times are 0-100 in 5.7. These cars are slower than the pre MY01 model.
The reason I say this is that a standard WRX can and does out run an SS commo in a straight line. Part of it is down to the launch. Cody Crocker has been able to get a standard STI to do 0-100 in 5.3 sec.
Getting to the point. The EVO as a stock car is faster than the WRX and should be than the STI. Therefore the EVO can out run the SS in a traffic light grand prix

The usual disclaimer works here though - being a 8 vs a 4 the SS will easily blast past the WRX and Evo past 180km/h - no probs there.

[Flamsuit off]
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2004 | 11:14 PM
  #245  
Rmm Rmm's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
From: Australia
THX1138, agree the expectations could be getting out of control, I need to stay a little more focussed on other stuff ie work, family, social not just this EVO!!!

From Adelaide the price breakdown is as follows:

Car $61,990
Stamp Duty $2,420
Rego $593
Dealer Delivery $2,995 (mmm this seems a little high...)
Total cost $67,998

When questioning the dealer deliver costs it was explained that the franchise costs and tooling costs a the result of the higher dealer delivery costs. However Adelaide also said these would be the same across Australia (not sure how due to different distances travelled and different numbers of cars to allocate the costs across..)

Anyway also got news that one Red EVO has arrived (I won't steel your thunder..you know who you are...lucky man & that my black EVO will be delivered Wednesday next week.)
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2004 | 11:17 PM
  #246  
Evo8DownUnder's Avatar
Evolving Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 337
Likes: 0
From: Forster, NSW Australia
Originally Posted by astondg
From what I have seen the SS will probably be similar in straight line performance, it might be quicker from a roll, but I am sure the Evolution VIII will blow it away on anything other than a straight road. It should be considerably quicker in the wet too.

Aston
Forgive the sarcasm, but REALLY?

A bog stock WRX will put an SS in it's place, let alone an Evo.

Thanks for the heads-up, Aston.
Reply
Old Jul 2, 2004 | 12:00 AM
  #247  
THX1138's Avatar
Thread Starter
Evolving Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 223
Likes: 0
From: Perth, Western Australia
While having a break from work I came up with this Wallpaper. I had made a Subaru one when I was one of "them" It's a remake of the Windows XP wallpaper. I call it Rally Bliss

So time to make a Tommi is his Evo 7 running around Perth/WA in Rally Aus!

This is web saved version below. If you want a full high res version click Evo7 Wallpaper

Hope you enjoy

Reply
Old Jul 2, 2004 | 12:12 AM
  #248  
astondg's Avatar
Evolving Member
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 311
Likes: 0
From: Australia
Yeah, yeah I didn't mean that you didn't know I was really meaning that I don't think the Evolution VIII will be any faster in a straight line. I only put in about the handling because I didn't want to be flamed for dissmissing the Lancer . You said "driving my wife's VX SS seem an other-worldly experience, so I can't begin to think how much of an impression the Evo will make on me once it arrives!" so I just thought I should say that as far as straight line performance is concerned the Evolution VIII might not be much different, especially as far as torque is concerned.

THX1138 is right though (no flame suit needed ), with a good driver from a standing start the Evolution VIII should be able to hold off the SS, but from a roll or at higher speeds it might have some trouble.

I have 2 tests on the TME against the HSV GTS with 300kW and the lancer manages a 0-100km/h time of 5.2 seconds and a 1/4mile time of 13.2 seconds (versus 13.5 for the GTS) and it still manages to accelerate faster than the GTS from 160km/h to 190 or so km/h (which is where the test stops) .

That was a very fast car, and I am sure the Evolution VIII will also be very fast but from some of the marketing material it seems like Mitsubishi is trying to sell it, from a performance point of view, like they did with the TME. Some of the stuff I have read about the new Evolution VIII that is an evolution of previous models with an upgraded engine and more performance sounds like it is taken straight from the Japanese spec broucher and might not be completely appropriate for our version.

EDIT: Nice wall paper! I will save it right now.

Aston
Reply
Old Jul 2, 2004 | 12:50 AM
  #249  
evo8oz's Avatar
Evolving Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 181
Likes: 0
From: Richmond, VA
Guys **** commodores, if this car is not faster than a stock commodore SS let alone a HSV Clubby in a stright line then im going to drive the evo off a cliff, cos its a piece of junk!!!!

hehehehehe!
Reply
Old Jul 2, 2004 | 01:19 AM
  #250  
THX1138's Avatar
Thread Starter
Evolving Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 223
Likes: 0
From: Perth, Western Australia
Finally a breakdown (kinda) of costs from my Dealer - Perth WA

This is how they gave it to me:
RRP: $61,990
Tax and other Charges: $6223
Rego 6 months: $300
Total: $68,513 (basic car delivered)

I asked about the tax and other charges figure. The answer was that included all taxes and fees including Stamp duty and dealer delivery. SO on that:
$6,223 breakdown
Stamp duty (6.5% WA) $4,029.35
This leaves $2114 for dealer delivery.
It could have been worse considering our distance away from the national delivery point (DOH!)

For me I add my accessories figure of $2206 (includes Security tint all the other bits I have previously listed).
SO my final drive away price with access: $70,719
Take away the deposit and it sounds better $67,719 (better start working harder and saving more - only days/weeks/months/year to go before the car arrives )

THX1138
Reply
Old Jul 2, 2004 | 01:52 AM
  #251  
astondg's Avatar
Evolving Member
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 311
Likes: 0
From: Australia
Originally Posted by evo8oz
Guys **** commodores, if this car is not faster than a stock commodore SS let alone a HSV Clubby in a stright line then im going to drive the evo off a cliff, cos its a piece of junk!!!!

hehehehehe!
I think you will have a tough time with any V8 HSV in a straight line, at least while the Evolution VIII is standard . If you want to beat HSVs in a straight line the TME, or any import Evolution, would be a better choice.

But by the look of your post you are having a bit of a laugh, the lancer isn't all about straight line speed or who you can beat at the lights. I don't really care too much about what I can beat in a straight line, as I am sure most of you don't, what I do care about is that we had the TME, that performed like I said before, and in Japan most of the Evolutions do low 13sec 1/4miles but we get the detuned version that is working hard to beat a relatively low tech family car (SS) and the WRX.

I know how much work Mitsubishi puts into the Evolution line to get the performance they do and I also know Holden just put a low tech American engine into a modified Vaxhual body shell with very little development (compared to the Evolution line) so when Mitsubishi decides to detune the Evolution and it struggles to beat the SS I get a little dissapointed.

Anyway I am sure once you drive your Evolution VIII's you won't be dissapointed.

EDIT: I forgot to mention that a lot of HSV owners like to race everyone at the lights, like they have a point to prove and like they just expect to be quicker than everything, so it is nice everynow and then to show them that other car makers now how to make fast cars too .

Aston

Last edited by astondg; Jul 2, 2004 at 02:11 AM.
Reply
Old Jul 2, 2004 | 02:15 AM
  #252  
evo8oz's Avatar
Evolving Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 181
Likes: 0
From: Richmond, VA
Originally Posted by astondg

EDIT: I forgot to mention that a lot of HSV owners like to race everyone at the lights, like they have a point to prove and like they just expect to be quicker than everything, so it is nice everynow and then to show them that other car makers now how to make fast cars too .

Aston
So true being a former HSV driver!! And that is a major resaon why i wouldnt buy a HSV, and that they suck! Evos rule!!
Reply
Old Jul 2, 2004 | 02:34 AM
  #253  
THX1138's Avatar
Thread Starter
Evolving Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 223
Likes: 0
From: Perth, Western Australia
The Evo will be a relived experience for me. When I bought my Evo4 WRX new in 2000/01 it was the quickest thing next to the STI. Everyone wanted to have a shot at it. Traffic light Grand Prixs were regular with some of my most memorable moments against a Ferrari and Lamborghini at the same time!!! That one lasted into some sweeping corners which was awesome!

Anyways, as the WRX became so well known as being a V8 Killer the runs slowed down (i wasn't complaining - especially now with our new "hoon" laws).

My WRX slowly became more and more modded until its peak power output of 250kw at the Fly - she also looked fast. The funny thing was that from then on no one wanted to have a go unless it was another modded STI or WRX.

Traffic Light Grand Prix were fun, but nothing beats the fun of Track, autokhana and rally driving (tarmac and amature at my level). On these feilds the WRX and STI still hold supreme with my team taking many honours

I suppose the point is that with my WRX (providing I knew there was a drag going to happen on the green light) I never saw the tail lights of any car - including HSV.

The Evo will start this trend all over again. I am sure with the evo many will try and take them on as they have such a reputation and have been talked up. As the Evo become modded and break out faster the duels will slow down and the only ones game will be the STI crew. I am very sure that after the initial few months to a year you will not have a run with a Commodore or HSV. They will know their place by then.

On that note, since some have known about my change from Scooby to Mitsu many are hanging out to carve me up on the track so they can say "I beat an Evo 8!"

Over here the Evo reign supreme when they get their act together with teams having cars going back all the way to Evo 1 and 2s.

Give me some time to learn the car in competition circumstances and I'll try my best to us all proud

The only thing is that my team (4 cars) consists of all other Subarus - not a bad thing when you see the figures and times they pull!! Still, I'd LOVE to see a team of Evos starting from 5 through the Evo 8

[Self endugling rant over]
Reply
Old Jul 2, 2004 | 02:49 AM
  #254  
astondg's Avatar
Evolving Member
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 311
Likes: 0
From: Australia
Originally Posted by THX1138
Still, I'd LOVE to see a team of Evos starting from 5 through the Evo 8
You supply the cars and I'll help you drive them ... I can drive you know, sometimes.

Aston
Reply
Old Jul 2, 2004 | 02:55 AM
  #255  
THX1138's Avatar
Thread Starter
Evolving Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 223
Likes: 0
From: Perth, Western Australia
Originally Posted by astondg
You supply the cars and I'll help you drive them ... I can drive you know, sometimes.

Aston
I can drive only sometimes too The last time I took an STI in competition was not good Put it this way, I am still paying off the damage to car and the fence. You get the good with the bad I suppose.
Just as a note, the current breed of STIs really need ABS!!!!

Team of Evos!! Yeah!
I'd love to be able to supply them!! The more I think about it, I know guys who compete with a 4, a 5, a 6.5, a monster 550hp Evo 7 and then my piddly little Evo 8.
That could work

That'd be fun
Reply



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:21 PM.