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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 12:55 AM
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Trim is an area ratio used to describe both turbine and compressor wheels. Trim is calculated using the inducer and exducer diameters. As trim is increased, the wheel can support more air/gas flow.

The BB and non-BB are describing if the turbo uses ball bearings or a sleeve. The ball bearing turbo's spin slightly faster and cost more than their non-BB conterparts.
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 08:43 AM
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Trim is an area ratio used to describe both turbine and compressor wheels. Trim is calculated using the inducer and exducer diameters. As trim is increased, the wheel can support more air/gas flow.

The BB and non-BB are describing if the turbo uses ball bearings or a sleeve. The ball bearing turbo's spin slightly faster and cost more than their non-BB conterparts.
I know this already. One can incraese both wheels and still maintain the same ratio. If one does not increase the wheel sizes, and then adds the BB without changing the AR, the turbo will spool faster than the non-BB. Which is great, but I think what happens at that point is the wheels get up to speed so fast that there is no room left, on the ind. and exd. wheels (RPM wise), to carry a flat torque curve. After that torque, on the motor, tapers severely. So, back to my original question. Are the inducer and inducer wheels bigger on the BB?
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 08:54 AM
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hmm yeah i am excited. BIG ups to dave!!! Everyone just needs to close their lips till the master is done

PS thanks dave
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by SWOLN
I know this already. One can incraese both wheels and still maintain the same ratio. If one does not increase the wheel sizes, and then adds the BB without changing the AR, the turbo will spool faster than the non-BB. Which is great, but I think what happens at that point is the wheels get up to speed so fast that there is no room left, on the ind. and exd. wheels (RPM wise), to carry a flat torque curve. After that torque, on the motor, tapers severely. So, back to my original question. Are the inducer and inducer wheels bigger on the BB?
The size of the wheels don't change from BB to Non-BB just the bearings. Bigger wheels would simply mean more inertia to overcome and thus slightly more lag.

I can't really determine if your trying to describe surge where the turbo is outflowing the engine and thus backing up in the intake or running out of flow where a larger turbo would shine.
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Old Dec 7, 2006 | 08:10 AM
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If this BB 50 trim does not have larger wheels, I think Dave Buschur, or someone else, needs to get with Borg Warner to create the optimum turbo. A turbo that uses a properly sized titanium wheel, with BB, too include a torque that tapers only slightly if at all. The lighter Titanium wheel advancments, and BB should make this type of turbo a reality.

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Old Dec 7, 2006 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by SWOLN
If this BB 50 trim does not have larger wheels, I think Dave Buscher, or someone else, needs to get with Borb Warner to create the optimum turbo. A turbo that uses a properly sized titanium wheel, with BB, too include a torque that tapers only slightly if at all. The lighter Titanium wheel advancments, and BB should make this type of turbo a reality.
its BUSCHUR and BORG not Buscher and Borb
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Old Dec 7, 2006 | 11:10 AM
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its BUSCHUR and BORG not Buscher and Borb
at least someone is paying attention. Thanks
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Old Dec 7, 2006 | 12:52 PM
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I see dave hitting the threads hard this afternoon, give us an update!!
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Old Dec 7, 2006 | 01:29 PM
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When do you think this kit would be out? I would love to have one for the summer!!!
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Old Dec 7, 2006 | 05:16 PM
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let's get an update.
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Old Dec 7, 2006 | 05:19 PM
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future plans for a BB turbo option?
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Old Dec 9, 2006 | 12:04 PM
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still waiting on word???
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 05:10 PM
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bump for an update...
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 05:48 PM
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i heard from dave the other day, they are waiting for the manifolds to come back from getting coated. should hear something next week.

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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 08:46 PM
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