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Old Sep 10, 2015 | 05:57 PM
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open wasteagate won't cause an overspeed. Its allowing exhaust around the turbine. It would "underspeed" the turbo, not over speed it...lol
LOL. posting at work while i'm too busy to think straight. i was thinking of it being like a boost leak. thanks for the correction.
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Old Sep 10, 2015 | 07:28 PM
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Maybe they will sell you a new one at a discounted price? Customer loyalty and all that.
$1495 is what they offer map sells $1595
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Old Sep 11, 2015 | 05:11 AM
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Idk, you never heard of many failures with these when CBRD was selling them.
it happens, you just dont hear about it because chad takes care of his customers
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Old Sep 11, 2015 | 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by kinein
The flapper was loose not tight like when it was when I installed it.
is the turbine housing mitsubishi or aftermarket? the bbk used mitshu housing. i had a kingnugawa turbo with non mitsu housing and the wastegate port warped pretty quick and cause the flapper not to seal right. my friend ran Map turbo with after market turbine housing and had same issues, and was replace 3 times. each time only lasted a few track weekend.
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Old Sep 11, 2015 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by honda-guy
is the turbine housing mitsubishi or aftermarket? the bbk used mitshu housing. i had a kingnugawa turbo with non mitsu housing and the wastegate port warped pretty quick and cause the flapper not to seal right. my friend ran Map turbo with after market turbine housing and had same issues, and was replace 3 times. each time only lasted a few track weekend.
Would be a revelation if its not an MHI housing. I think everyone had assumed that it was.
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Old Sep 11, 2015 | 08:15 AM
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I just went out and compared the stock turbo and Blouch 1.0XTR on my car best I could. I don't know what the china copies look like and how close they try to match the factory housing but the blouch visually is very similar.


All the casting flash and parting lines, post CNCd areas, and identifying casted numbers seem to match. That's not to say it wasn't just 3D scanned but the size of casting flash and the fact that machined clearances are machined (usually something that would happen when theirs a change and changing the tool cost more than post machining it).
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Old Sep 11, 2015 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Dallas J
I just went out and compared the stock turbo and Blouch 1.0XTR on my car best I could. I don't know what the china copies look like and how close they try to match the factory housing but the blouch visually is very similar.


All the casting flash and parting lines, post CNCd areas, and identifying casted numbers seem to match. That's not to say it wasn't just 3D scanned but the size of casting flash and the fact that machined clearances are machined (usually something that would happen when theirs a change and changing the tool cost more than post machining it).
the real mitsu one has logo on it. on the inlet flange of the turbine housing.

one of the reason why FP went with their own housing is because new MHI housing are nearly impossible to get now. so i don't know where Blouch would be getting new MHI housing from.

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Old Sep 11, 2015 | 08:38 AM
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Like this?
Attached Thumbnails New stock frame turbo options from Blouch-mitsu-flange.jpg  
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Old Sep 11, 2015 | 09:26 AM
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yea, like that..
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Old Sep 11, 2015 | 10:10 AM
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There is a video on fp that shows the difference between a factory hotside to a Chinese made mhi.
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Old Sep 11, 2015 | 10:16 AM
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Kinein, tell blouch to send your turbo back. Cal FP, tell them what you have, and see what they can do for you. With a good MHI exhaust housing, you may be able to have them build you a JB green for around $1,000...
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Old Sep 11, 2015 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by kinein
There is a video on fp that shows the difference between a factory hotside to a Chinese made mhi.
Here it is. One thing I didn't know was the the MHI housing is an austenitic non-magnetic alloy, presumably a stainless steel (vs a nickel-base alloy). Should make it very easy to identify simply by putting a magnet on it like what Robert shows.

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Old Sep 11, 2015 | 10:38 AM
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^ that's for evo x housing. i don't think evo 7/8/9 MHI housing are stainless
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Old Sep 11, 2015 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by honda-guy
^ that's for evo x housing. i don't think evo 7/8/9 MHI housing are stainless
Robert implies otherwise, but I just checked for myself, and indeed the MHI Evo 9 hotside is quite magnetic, so that test won't work for the 7/8/9.

As a side note, very cool to see that MHI did evolve the Evo 10 turbo by using a more advanced material.
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Old Sep 11, 2015 | 10:47 AM
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Nope, All pre-X turbos were cast iron with high nickel content. Just went out and verified both Blouch and IX turbo are magnetic.

Considering how similar the two turbos I have here are, I'm feeling pretty confident at least my 1.0XTR has an MHI turbine housing.
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