Based upon what? Gut feeling? Owner complaints? Statistical defect rates?

Anyone with an axe to grind can buy a domain. It doesn't mean a thing, except that there are dissatisfied owners. You think there are no dissatisfied Subaru owners?

I've got 63k hard miles on my Evo. I autocross regularly. I'm on the original clutch, and have had no mechanical problems. Maybe I'm lucky. Maybe I'm a shill for . Do you have any reason to believe me or trust me? Would the existence of satisfied owners really be a surprise to you?

Do you expect a flood of people to reaffirm your decision to buy an Evo?

 

I don't quite understand why you are coming at me like I need to have people reaffirm my decision to buy an EVO, as if i'm insecure and need people to decide for me. However, after reading about lots of people buying EVOs and having the clutch go out after 10000 miles, and getting stranded on the highway, it makes me nervous. And if it was just one or two cases, then I wouldn't pay much attention, as I would assume that they just don't know how to drive a stick and burned the clutch up. BUT... there were like 20 different cases that I read about, and it makes me worry. I have one friend who has an EVO 9 MR, and he loves it, but has synchro issues with the car in 5th and 6th. Only 19,000 miles too. And another friend has an EVO 8 MR that has problems with the CV joints all leaking oil. The reason that I think that Subaru MIGHT, not does, but might, have better build quality, is because when you type in search strings like Subaru quality, Honda quality, Toyota quality, nothing really comes up. But, when you type in "Mitsubishi quality," a whole list of consumer complaint sites pop up. I even found a video from NBC or ABC that showed the paint fading and peeling after like two years on numerous eclipses. And Mitsubishi denies coverage. I've read rust issues, and problems with the eclipse GSR wheels bending from hitting tiny potholes that normally wouldn't damage even a cheap aftermarket wheel. A company even did a test on this after so many complaints were filed, and they found the metal to be unusually soft and brittle, stating that even cheap aftermarket wheels were more durable. Yet again, there were so many examples that it's a little bit overwhelming. However, I've also read that quality has come up a good bit in the past couple years. So here is where I am on this whole thing, I really think that a lot of these problems are overstated and have been resolved to a large degree, it's just a little nerve racking. I'm going to buy the car and trust that Mitsu is going to do me right. I just hope i'm not going to regret my decision. I have faith in the company, I really do. I'm just looking for some success stories about the cars to instill some confidence.

 

There are hater sites for everything Sti s included. When you mass produce anything you'll have problems. Just don't void your warranty and sell it after your warranty and you'll have no problems. theres your insecurity blanket

 

STi2EvoX - Stick with your Subaru if you're that worried about Mitsubishi. You came here, asked about Mitsubishi reliability, and people answered your questions, but you still worry because you read a website called mitsubishisucks.com. I don't know what else you're looking for.

 

I'm just doing my research. If I'm going to buy the car, then I am going to do as much research as possible. I don't appreciate your attitude, because these are legitimate concerns. I am going to buy the car, I just want to hear more than two people tell me that they have had good experiences with the car after hearing so many that did not. I don't believe a lot of what I read, and that internet site is obviously biased. It just makes me want to do my due dilligence in researching what I am about to spend 38,000 dollars on. You should learn to be more supportive in the future, as that is what these forums are supposed to be all about.

 

FWIW there's a site out there like mitsubishisucks.com for subarus, I can't remember the name of it but I think it's run by northern ursala over on NASIOC. I remember some drama regarding it because the owner worked for SOA at the time.

 

You don't appreciate my "attitude"? Poor baby. I was trying to put you out of your misery and save you the trouble since it seems like you're going to have a heart attack about a car that you don't own because you obviously don't trust Mitsubishi, even though you state that you "have faith in the company." (If you did, then there'd be no reason to ask questions about reliability so valiantly.)

Yes, you have legitimate concerns, but you seem to keep asking the same thing, despite what people tell you. You mentioned you had a strong interest in purchasing an Evo but were worried about some reoccurring problems that you've read about online. People addressed your concerns, saying that like any other car, there are going to be a few problematic bad apples throughout the production run that will require some warranty work, but also that a lot of parts breaking are due to abuse whether because of driver error or heavy track use. Along with that, people are giving you their own experiences--many of which include lots of spirited driving with minimal problems when following the required maintenance schedules and replacing wear-and-tear items as needed. But despite this, you bring up other people's bad experiences and ask us to address why their cars are breaking down, assuming that we can figure out why a friend of yours in Atlanta with an VIII MR has leaking CV joints.

Bottom line, even Toyotas can have problems, and their track record won't matter to you if it's you who gets that one Camry out of the 400,000 that breaks down. It boils down to how much you like the car. If you want the Evo X, then buy it. Who knows, maybe the newer Mitsubishis are going to be more reliable with them trying to make a strong comeback in the U.S. market. Plus, it's still a Japanese car, it's not like your buying a German car that was assembled in Mexico (i.e., VW New Beetle). But if you're so worried about something going wrong, then get the new STI since your experiences with them have been good.

You can talk about how I should "learn to be more supportive" (this is an internet forum, not a drug rehab clinic) despite a lot of my contributions to threads of potential Evo owners in the Newbie/FAQ thread, but you're just going to run in circles with your line of questioning. Plus, your concerns have been mentioned time and time again by numerous potentials over the years, and our answers have always been the same... it is what it is. Perhaps the "search" button would've been better for your research. Regardless, I hope you make the right choice with your next vehicle purchase.

 

You're a very abrasive person, you know that? Anyway, I do have faith in the brand, I just wanted to see if those problems were as wide spread as the article made them out to be.

 

Do you want the truth, or do you want a sugarcoated lie stating that Evos are 100% reliable and that any problems are always driver-inflicted?

Factory defects do arise in Evos, more frequently than in Toyota Corollas and Honda Civics. It's a risk that no one who has owned an Evo can calculate, but it's a risk we take, one bigger than what you STI owners take with your cars but smaller than what the '02-'05 WRX guys took with theirs.

I'm sorry you feel that I'm a "very abrasive person," but I'm giving you realistic answers. Obviously guys telling you that their personal experiences with Evos were fine wasn't good enough for you, and it seems like you're searching for some magical answer that is going to alleviate your worries completely. Realistically, you've been asking questions in a thread called WARRANTY ISSUES (which will of course contain problems along with the negative feelings of the cars' owners) and searching through a website called mitsubishisucks.com, so of course all of the bad experiences of others are going to make you a little concerned, more so than the average Joe who comes through here and asks if his future purchase will be a good idea or not. It's a gamble that we all take as Evo owners, and I've taken it twice so far with no problems as of yet, but even as I say that, it won't be enough for you.

Good luck with your purchase, whatever it is.

 

A couple people responded saying that their cars were fine, and it's not that that wasn't good enough, it's just that I was just trying to hear from more Mitsu owners than the couple that responded. I guess I'm just not used to taking a gamble on an expensive car. But, the tantalizing performance of the EVO is just too much to turn down because of a couple horror stories that I've read. It's worth it to me to take the chance, because I really do like the car. I just want to trust the car. I hope I'm not wrong. And for the record, I'm not asking for your advice on what I should do. I couldn't care less what your stance is on that. No offense. It's just your experience with your car that I'm interested in. Perhaps I should've been a little clearer from the get go. WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR IS SIMPLE; PEOPLE'S EXPERIENCES. NOT OPINIONS OR ADVICE ON WHAT I SHOULD DO, JUST EXPERIENCES. i.e. "My car has 75,000 miles and no clutch problems at all," or "my clutch failed at 10,000 miles." SIMPLE...THAT'S IT. I've already made up my mind on what I'm going to do, I see no need to repeat myself. But, if anyone feels like contributing anything, I'll be checking this thread from time to time.

 

Fair enough, but that's not what you said before. Your first post specifically asked for "any advice," and people gave it to you, and now you don't want it. Anyway, with this thread being about WARRANTY ISSUES (and not the lack thereof) pertaining to car problems and how Mitsubishi handles it, this isn't the proper thread for owners' personal experiences to be addressed.

Using the search button and typing "Evo reliability" and spending 30 seconds looking through the results would get you tons and tons of threads discussing everything you're looking for. SIMPLE...THAT'S IT.

It's not my intention to be harsh on you, but you're making things a lot more complicated than they need to be, and it seems like you haven't searched (hard enough) or at least brought up such a repetitive topic in the right forum.

 

thanks, best advice I've gotten from you so far. I do appreciate the help, but if you don't mind me asking you one last question... how has YOUR evo been? Reliable? Any problems? Those SE models are badass, I looked at getting one, but kinda fell in love with the X. Anyway, thanks again.

 

thats crazy but that is kind an old issue because that was known after the evo came out for a year

 

I haven't had any problems with mine and it is a IX SE. My kids think it is pretty bad ***! Good luck

 

His name is DeeeezNutz... abrasive, naw