View Poll Results: Choose which ones will influence your decision
Wow, 300hp, 300 ft-lbs from 2.5L Subaru boxer engine
152
22.25%
Proven tuning potential of the Mitsubishi 4G63
355
51.98%
Subaru\'s strong 6-speed manual tranny
138
20.20%
Mitsubishi\'s dependable 5-speed tranny
109
15.96%
DCCD on the STi... wish Evo had ACD
132
19.33%
Stock FMIC on the Evo
164
24.01%
Exterior looks
305
44.66%
Interior quality
148
21.67%
Gross Vehicle Weight
79
11.57%
I want to test drive both before deciding
165
24.16%
Price
261
38.21%
Body Shell Rigidity
133
19.47%
Brakes
163
23.87%
0 - 60 mph and 1/4 mile times
201
29.43%
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Evo vs. STI | Anything and Everything [ALL THREADS MERGED]
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From: Riverview, FL
Originally posted by Sano
I have read 4-5 reviews and all have given the edge to the evo. I got my superstreet today and in the sti test drive they went as far to say the evo was quicker 0-60 than the sti, but that the sti was faster in the 1/4. They said to hit 60 you have to shift into third gear. They also gave the evo the edge. I love it!!!!!!!!
I have read 4-5 reviews and all have given the edge to the evo. I got my superstreet today and in the sti test drive they went as far to say the evo was quicker 0-60 than the sti, but that the sti was faster in the 1/4. They said to hit 60 you have to shift into third gear. They also gave the evo the edge. I love it!!!!!!!!
I think Subaru knew that bringing a US spec STI here would have made it VERY inferior to the EVO, which is why they had to increase the displacemen to 2.5. Honestly, the STI would have been beaten in all performance categories(we already know the EVO owns the handling department, looks, and they are not really faster than our 2.0L either) and nobody would have preferred the STI aside from scooby fanatics. The only downside to this EVO vs. STI frenzy to me is the 6 speed tranny. Other than that, its the EVO all the way. I will jump on a factory option 6 speed tranny in a heartbeat (Also all the SAYC and ACD "stuff").
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Last edited by BadBoyBeltran; Jul 6, 2003 at 06:55 AM.
to me theyre both the same car. its just mostly looks on deciding which one youd rather be seen in. when i first the the new evo 8 i thought, OMG, what have they done to it, it looks like hell! but maybe i was use to the big fog lights and more aggressive front end. but i love it now! the STI on the other hand is...well...the front end looks like ****. the lines on it dont make any sense. like the one that sweeps from under the headlight up onto the hood. huh?!?! gay. the lights totally suck now. i love how they had a huge hissy fit kus the lights were round and now they look even worse. if i EVER had enough money to buy either, id look @ em as the same car, with the same performance..but one slight differance. the EVO is a few grand cheaper.
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From: Between the Blue and the Sand
All I know is.... my friends used to challenge my decision and reasoning behind choosing the Evo over the Sti.....
Now that both cars are available in the US, and the mags have pitted them against each other....no one questions my decision.
SC~
Now that both cars are available in the US, and the mags have pitted them against each other....no one questions my decision.
SC~
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Originally posted by shirokuma
I think the fact that tuners have already reached 350-370hp with new STi using about $750 in bolt-ons speaks for itself.
I think the fact that tuners have already reached 350-370hp with new STi using about $750 in bolt-ons speaks for itself.
Who has done this? I'd like to see the info!
Originally posted by atlvalet
MadeEvoVIII:
I wouldn't say that the front mount intercooler is that big of an advantage, and let me explain. A lot of us are going to upgrade the Evo's intercooler eventually. Also, I'm assuming most STi owners will upgrade to front mounts. The price range for upgraded Evo FMIC are between 800 and 1300. That's the same relative ballpark as WRX front mounts.
I think it all comes down to taste. I like the Evo. I'm lukewarm towards the Sti. Others like the Sti. And basically, driver matters more than any other performance part we will ever install.
Trollski: Go back to Nasioc or wherever you've come from. Or agree to meet some of these guys at the track (Jedi, 2Cool, WRC4EVR, etc.). That's where it matters anyway, not on some silly forum.
MadeEvoVIII:
I wouldn't say that the front mount intercooler is that big of an advantage, and let me explain. A lot of us are going to upgrade the Evo's intercooler eventually. Also, I'm assuming most STi owners will upgrade to front mounts. The price range for upgraded Evo FMIC are between 800 and 1300. That's the same relative ballpark as WRX front mounts.
I think it all comes down to taste. I like the Evo. I'm lukewarm towards the Sti. Others like the Sti. And basically, driver matters more than any other performance part we will ever install.
Trollski: Go back to Nasioc or wherever you've come from. Or agree to meet some of these guys at the track (Jedi, 2Cool, WRC4EVR, etc.). That's where it matters anyway, not on some silly forum.
To do a FMIC on a WRX or STI, the owner would need to cut or replace the factory bumper beem. Witch is not ideal just incase you got into a head on. Plus the factory plastic needs to be cut to fit the FMIC. I have installed a few in the last year Greddy, Blitz, TXS hiperflow, and APS. Then you will need to run a intake witch would mean a custom dyno tune to smooth out the a/fs.
With the EVO I'm sure we will have a lot of options Like AMS and Pruven in having a After market stock location fitting intercoolers.
Eric
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From: Pembroke Pines FL
Originally posted by i_love_spool
The FMIC would have added to its looks but no they had to mount it on the engine, which will cost a lot of money for tuners everytime they mod the engine the intercooler will have to be taken off.
The FMIC would have added to its looks but no they had to mount it on the engine, which will cost a lot of money for tuners everytime they mod the engine the intercooler will have to be taken off.
DIRT...
Have you been watching the WRC at all? have you noticed how much DIRT there is? having the FMIC looks cute or whatever (ricer) but one hit from a rock or clogged with dirt, and you're either sucking dirt IN to the engine, VIA that "cute" FMIC, or you're losing boost through the nice crack or hole....
It's a very good design, utilized by subaru for the WRC, and passed on to us, the complaining, looks-oriented, market.
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Originally posted by CivicEater
If you knew ANYTHING about WRC you'd understand why Subaru put the intercooler up there..
DIRT...
Have you been watching the WRC at all? have you noticed how much DIRT there is? having the FMIC looks cute or whatever (ricer) but one hit from a rock or clogged with dirt, and you're either sucking dirt IN to the engine, VIA that "cute" FMIC, or you're losing boost through the nice crack or hole....
It's a very good design, utilized by subaru for the WRC
If you knew ANYTHING about WRC you'd understand why Subaru put the intercooler up there..
DIRT...
Have you been watching the WRC at all? have you noticed how much DIRT there is? having the FMIC looks cute or whatever (ricer) but one hit from a rock or clogged with dirt, and you're either sucking dirt IN to the engine, VIA that "cute" FMIC, or you're losing boost through the nice crack or hole....
It's a very good design, utilized by subaru for the WRC
Besides, if dirt and rocks were that much of a concern, they would top-mount their radiators.
Raidators are much more mission-critical than intercoolers.Remember that all the things that spit up dirt and rocks on a rally car are located behind the radiator and FMIC. You know, those round things that are covered in rubber? What are they called again?
And generally you don't follow another car on a rally too closely.
Last edited by ShapeGSX; Jul 7, 2003 at 06:46 AM.
Generally the argument of STi vs Evo boils down to the same thing: 300hp vs 271 hp. Simple solution: put $2300 into your car (about the same as the STi price difference plus the installed cost of a stereo system) like I did and make a lot more power. Very easy, Daniel-san. 
I can't belive all the bs i'm hearing.
From edmunds the market value of evo's is about $1000 over and STi is sold at MSRP. If your pay over 1K over for the evo I guess it's about the same price.
Personally after driving both I like the evo better because of the more direct steering. The STi seem soft. Perhaps it's the spring rate? Nothing that can't be fixed.
You can't go wrong with either but the steering favors to my liking to the evo.
From edmunds the market value of evo's is about $1000 over and STi is sold at MSRP. If your pay over 1K over for the evo I guess it's about the same price.
Personally after driving both I like the evo better because of the more direct steering. The STi seem soft. Perhaps it's the spring rate? Nothing that can't be fixed.
You can't go wrong with either but the steering favors to my liking to the evo.