Except that the STi is only a breath behind the Evo. And especially the fact that an STi would smoke the crap out of a Cobra around that same racetrack. Some Evo guys on this board don't give the STi its just due.

I'm sure we all know that the Cobra is the straight line king of the three cars.

 

Dude...chill man. Obviously you havent owned a Subaru - the same sorts of people that have attitudes like this are all OVER Suby Land. Subaru gives them the finger too. (If you dont want to worry about a warranty buy a BMW and pony up!)

 

the evo has less ground clearance, and sits 3/4" taller in height, if i can remember... not sure need to do the comparison on subaru's web site...

Edit after checking

Ground Clearance
Sti 5.7"
Evo 5.5"


Height
Sti 56.3"
Evo 57.1"

 

No. The STi makes more power and substantially more torque. The numbers came from our Dyno Dynamics Dyno where Stage 1 EVOs (turbo-back, XEDE and cam gears) make 245-255 wheel hp. The STi, with the XEDE and Turbo-back makes 260-270 wheel hp with loads more midrange torque. Both on 91 octane CA. For Dynojet equivalence (what most people are used to seeing) multiply by 1.15-1.17. Bigger motor and VVT goes a long way when it comes to engine output.

Shiv

 

well, yeah, the STi has a 2.5 liter engine, which is 25% (!!) larger than the EVO's... cheaters, puttin WRC illegal engines into the STi

 

So an Sti with similar or identical mods only makes on average 15whp more and in some cases only 5hp more?? Not very impressive considering the Sti is supposed to have 24hp more to begin with and it is 25% bigger The 2.5 will definitely make more torque..but I still don't think it will ever respond to mods as well as the 4g63 do yoy Shiv?

 

well it's nice to know that i started this huge war all over again, j/k, but seriously i'm getting to like the subie more and more, i really love the upgraded interior and all the fancy stuff in it, but i like the way the evo looks, I'm not to concerned about the warrenty wit the sti because if i get that then i will keep it stock for sometime, but wit the evo i know i will start the modding right after the break in, so i do have issue's wit the warrenty, just wondering wit the vishnu stage 1 void warrenty on it?, and if i upgrade the clutch and get it installed by the dealer will the warrenty be voided. Should i be worried about it at all, how many people are really having problems wit there warrenty, the thing about someone watching me at the track has me kinda worried, i mean i really don't want that headache, i don't want to spend 30 k and then have it break on me after a 10 k miles, The dealer's here are very friendly and i'm good friends wit the owner, so i don't think i will have a problem, i just want to know why u guys could choose one over the other?

please don't be biased, in ur reply, give a honest opionion

hey gotta give credit were it's do

also i could care less if subaru broke the WRC rules, seriously it's not gonna be the reason i don't buy an sti

 

i went with the sti instead of the evo, and would do it again any day.

i went sti because of the 2.5 liter engine, the 6 speed tranny, the gagues (omfg they are sooooo nice) and the overall interrior of the STi was superior to the EVO (in my opinion).

I also went with STi because the car is much more better looking in my opinion, and also in Raleigh there are about 5 evos and im 1 of 2 stis

gl with ur decision, it was a hard one, but i think i made the correct decision in the end

oh im 18 by the way if that effects the decision at all haha

 

One other thing to throw in the mix...

Subaru has frameless windows (I think on all of their cars). Having this in one of my previous cars, I can tell you this is a nightmare.

Evo has framed doors, much more rigid, much less susceptable to window leaks, power windows dropping off tracks, and window noises. Framed doors also give you a place high up to swing the door closed with.

 

Sure, if you don't mind the hood scoop and wing flapping around in the wind Just giving you a hard time since you are trolling on our forums, but you still can't deny it - I've logged about 25 miles in an STi (a neighbor has a black one, see pics on my website), and those things flail around like their made of thin plastic.

What kind of times are you running in your STi? Have you ran it yet?

 

Kind of a trivial point with the framed vs frameless windows, however your right about the features of the frame.. I always preferred cars with frameless windows until I had two different cars broken into because they could pull the window away from the weatherstripping.

And the STi vs EVO thing.. These cars are so close, and everyone says "With all things being equal" on the street, NOTHING is equal.. Its all about the driver. I've beaten many cars that should have realistically been quicker than my car. One of the heardest things about AWD is mastering a good launch and finding the sweet spot that the car wants to run in.. Its too bad I never came up against an STI when my car was stock.. But I personally have run in the very low 13's when my car was stock.. I don't know how different my car might have been from everyone elses, I certainly don't think that there is a difference.

Don't worry so much about how fast or how much horsepower.. On any given day, you could win or lose.. Pick the car that appeals to you the most, what gets you heart to skip a beat when you think about it.. And what makes you wake up in the middle of the night thinking about it..

 

I personally love both cars, and it would've been really hard for me if they came out at the same time.

I never owned a Subaru, but never owned a Mitsubishi either before my EVO.

I fell in love with the EVO when I first got it, and this is coming from a 1984 Carrera 911 with a NA racing drivetrain rebuild.

The STi will be more expensive to modify, since all boxer engines kinda defy the ordinary in engine set-ups and they are just harder to maintain and repair.

The STi is limited more than the EVO, so if having a lot of people driving the same car as yourself bothers you, this is a problem.

I never drove or test drove the STi (not yet), so I cannot tell you which one feels better for me.

Both car companies are harsh when it comes to warrantee claims and are not MOD friendly.

The best way to decide is to test drive both cars for a good 15-30 minutes each. If the dealerships know how serious you are in purchasing one or the other, it will make your experience better.

The EVO really looks way better and aggressive than the STi. I have seen an STi that has a different front end and skirts and it looked nice.

One thing that I haven't seen mentioned anywhere is the "airplane " comparisons to both cars from Top Gear (F-16 to the EVO because of its electronics and an B-52 to the Subaru for the growlier 4 cam boxer engine). It seems that here in the US, Mitsubishi did it the other way around with less electronics and more raw power, compared to the DCCD and electronic throttle equipped STi. Try finding the video and you will be entertained!!!

Again, I think only a test drive with playing with all of the vehicles capabilities will help you decide on which car is for you. They are pretty much the same car with the same capabilities. Nothing you can read can really give you the feel of what each car really is.

Sorry for the long rant. Another $.04 I guess.

I love my car, and I am an EVO owner. There is only one way for me to deal with this dillemma- mod the hell out of my car and spank some STI's!!!

STi

for self justification!

 

the decision that made me buy an evo over the sti is that when i was in the dominican republic i was taken for a ride in an evo 5 rs by a race car driver and blew me away... i also seen an evo6 and almost bought a 7 at a delearship there but founding out what it takes to import this car legally was not worth it... i also test drove an sti but like the way the evo 8 drove...you must make ur desicion urself so you wont regret what you spent


soo like MalibuJack said: "Don't worry so much about how fast or how much horsepower.. On any given day, you could win or lose.. Pick the car that appeals to you the most, what gets you heart to skip a beat when you think about it.. And what makes you wake up in the middle of the night thinking about it.. "

 

It's so funny to see people (Evo and STi people) getting all in a tiff about who's "dingy" is bigger. Sounds just like a Ford and Chevy hatred and love battle (Chevys suck.....Fords suck).

If peoples expectations are so high for either car, they'll be disappointed once they get it. Many people with STi's have complained that they are board already with the car and I'm sure it is the same with the Evo. I am not quite sure how this could be but oh well; this leads into my belief that people are disappointed and bored with the money they've spent and were expecting more (performance and reliability) leading to all the griping we are hearing. We all have a car (STi or Evo) that performs equal to if not outperforms a BMW M3 but costs 20 grand less.. That 20 grand was saved somewhere.



My little econo box (Evo) turned hot rod is still an econo box but it's fun as hell to drive now!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Yep, it's personal preference really. I liked the looks of the Evo better, the rear seat room, the Recaros, the proven and easily modded 4g63, the quicker steering and the more rigid feeling chassis.
Someone else may like the looks of the Sti better, the bigger softer seats, the slightly less rigid feel from suspension and chassis.
Some other things that each lack but can easily be added are radio/cd player and floormats in the Sti and cruise in the Evo.
Both are nice cars and performance wise it will be a drivers race.
The clutch isn't an issue with a majority of the Evo's. You just hear about problems more on these boards that makes them seem widespread. I know 7 evo owners in my area and only one is replacing his clutch...but he also drag races and autox's about every weekend and it has SAFC, turboback exhaust, mbc, intake, etc. He is replacing his at about 7000 miles. The tranny is nice and strong also.
Don't worry about what you hear about track spys and warranty work. Every area has good and bad dealers and it goes both ways...Subaru and Mitsubishi.
Just get what you like the most