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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 12:47 AM
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Originally posted by 992gnt
My Evo is one of the slowest awd's in the club now. I'm more worried about losing to a 10 year old car with $1k in mods than I am about losing to an STI.
Ain't that the truth... you gotta be more worried about those piles called DSMs with only a little money in them beating EVO's!
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 12:52 AM
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Originally posted by 97itr153
If the STi beats the Evo or vice-versa in a straight line, what does that prove? That the driver of the winning car was better able to put the right foot down.

If you want to impress people, take your car out to a road course or autocross track. Thats where you can tell apart the men from the boys. That is where cars as close as the Evo and STi will allow their DRIVERS to determine the result.

See you out there...
Not true, driver skill is a MOTHER of a HUGE factor in drag racing... you'd be surprised how slow a fast car can go (in a straight line) with a ****ty driver behind the wheel... I see it all the time!
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 01:48 AM
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I found the review to be a great read. Being as those 3 cars are tops on my list of hopefuls for next car made it even better. And, sure it was a bit biased. It was on a VW board. If someone here had written it, it would have bashed the R32 for having too much luxury and so on. Who cares. We all know what the cars can do. I mean, hell, the R32 kept up nicely and it isn't even intended to be a direct competitor to those cars.

The tire comment is another that too many people are *****ing about. I believe what they were trying to say about the tires is that if the R32 would have some spec rubber made just for it, it would have helped on the race track. The tires on the Evo and STi are made specifically for those cars. The Pilot Sports on the R32 are just a high performace street tire used on everything from Benzs to BMWs to S2000s. But, they were testing them stock for stock, so who cares. Again, that boils down to intended use. VW builds that car as the top eschelon of the Golf/GTI line. Its not built so they can make a winning race car out of it. So, super-high performance rubber isn't really needed on the car stock, because 95% of the owners just want a fast, fun street car. Having spec tires like the Evo and STi just doesn't fit the car.

But, each of those cars has an intended audience, and both will be, and are, big hits with that audience. You may only like one of them. Thats cool. Or, you might like all of them. Thats cool as well. They all have certain things about them that people just wont understand. Its just like someone said a few posts before me. If you have to ask, you don't get it. And if you get it, you don't need to ask. Its just like the old saying the Jeepers use. Don't ask, its a Jeep thing.

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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 02:45 AM
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Good reading even if it is a little biased. Personally, the tire excuse is a little of a stretch but if they have made it a weight difference (V6 + 18 inch rims) and braking, I might have bought it. But then again, that will be bashing the R32 and they don't want to do that.
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 07:01 AM
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I was hoping that the 30k+ pricetags of these cars would keep them out of the hands of most immature street racers.
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 08:26 AM
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Not worried at all. I still waiting to see one break 14's at the track.
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 08:45 AM
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Originally posted by stvbreal


Not mine either. I won't have a problem when the time comes.

Yeah Im not too scared of many cars right now pushing 330whp and running mid 12's... I think i may be able to smoke a STI. But stock for stock I give the STI the advantage.
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 09:14 AM
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I am more worried if Ford actually produces the Focus AWD turbo-Cosworth engine which they are showing around, last seen in the latest Road and Track (or Motortrend, I lose track sometimes). Lighter car than either STi or Evo, 2 door, 300+ hp. Should be pretty cool.
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 09:45 AM
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I am more worried if Ford actually produces the Focus AWD turbo-Cosworth
Had to bring that up huh? What an awesome car! If we all buy enough Evos and STis they will likely bring it over here, unlike the old Escort.
Back on-topic, I bet driver skill will be more of a factor with Evo vs STi in a straight line, but just speculating. I wouldn't get too big of a head about the handling, the STi is still one of the best handling cars on the street if you havent noticed, albeit apparently not as good as the Evo.
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 10:47 AM
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Evo vs. Sti on TV

Car and Driver television is going to show their comparison of the Evo and Sti on June 21 and 22 on TNN.
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 10:55 AM
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I doubt the Focus AWD will make it over here. The Mustang GT/Cobra guys would be pissed. Nice looking car though.

I'm not too scared. Like someone said earlier. There's always someone faster. Right now the EVO runs circles around 90%+ of the cars on the road. With some simple mods it can run circles around 98%+. The ony thing I'm jealous about is the beautiful gauges in the STi.
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 12:17 PM
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Thanks for the heads up
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 12:33 PM
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Re: Evo vs. Sti on TV

Originally posted by Wombat
Car and Driver television is going to show their comparison of the Evo and Sti on June 21 and 22 on TNN.
Can't wait to see it. Do you know exactly what time??
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 01:04 PM
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Isn't Motorweek also doing a comparo for TV for this weekend? (June 6-7)... It'll be on Speed Channel, IIRC.

Isn't one of those shows on TNN as well? I forget... They show so much NASCAR that I have stopped watching that channel on a daily basis. I often miss the good racing as a result... Oh well...
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 01:09 PM
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every magazine and tv show had at least four compares in the past couple of weeks,
im so sick of that evo vs sti crap
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