View Poll Results: EVO X Transmission Problem POLL
Notchy, grinding, or difficult to engage gears (all the time)
689
40.08%
Notchy, grinding, or difficult to engage gears (only when car is cold)
646
37.58%
Difficult to engage Reverse gear (cold or warm)
146
8.49%
No problems at all
238
13.85%
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The official Evo X notchy/grinding transmission thread
Mine was notchy too so I got an Exedy Twin disc clutch thinking it was going to get better and I was wrong. What did get better is when I'm on the gas the gears go in without a problem. I don't recommend it for a daily driver but for a weekend toy or a track car this clutch is killer.
Most manual tranny cars I have owned will have a little bit of trouble getting into reverse from time to time and occasionally grind when doing so. As far as the forward gears are concerned, I agree that it shouldn't be the way that it is but if you learn to shift more firmly it drops in like butter so it's really nothing to worry about. A lot of the old porsches were that way too. Hell, a lot of high performance sports cars have finicky synchros so part of it just goes with the territory. I used to get a little pissy about it too, but it's just the way it is man.
Ergh, I'm actually really pissed off right now because of how my X was acting today.
First cold/rainy day in Los Angeles since I got her and the ride was terrible.
There's a significant change in how it drives when it's cold. It's very rough and notchy.
First cold/rainy day in Los Angeles since I got her and the ride was terrible.
There's a significant change in how it drives when it's cold. It's very rough and notchy.
Whoa
Hi, I am still learning about this new X.
I have read more than a couple of times on this forums about how the GSR tranny is rough (specially when cold) and that its only good because it can take power.
I have just test driven a GSR (new) cold, just started, and the transmission felt SMOOTH as hell.
I did, also, tried another X (just because it was another color :P and I wanted to try that one in case I were to buy it) and the second gear could get stuck!!! Not really stuck, but it would not go in as easily as the other one.
I thought that I was imagining it as I own a 350Z and the gears there are a ***** to change. But since I am reading all that about the second gear, could I be right?
Could it be that not all the trannies are working properly? (with all that 5th gear noise and all).
Question.
I have read more than a couple of times on this forums about how the GSR tranny is rough (specially when cold) and that its only good because it can take power.
I have just test driven a GSR (new) cold, just started, and the transmission felt SMOOTH as hell.
I did, also, tried another X (just because it was another color :P and I wanted to try that one in case I were to buy it) and the second gear could get stuck!!! Not really stuck, but it would not go in as easily as the other one.
I thought that I was imagining it as I own a 350Z and the gears there are a ***** to change. But since I am reading all that about the second gear, could I be right?
Could it be that not all the trannies are working properly? (with all that 5th gear noise and all).
Question.
Good luck.
Reagrding the "rough shifting", typically they're pretty notchy when new, and smooth out as they break in. My 9 was horrible when new, but it went away totally after 600 miles or so. I noticed my 10 was a tad notchy when I first got it, but with 400 miles or so, it's fine. I remember the 9 having facility to adjust the clutch, and haven't looked on the 10. If you're still experiencing probs after some miles on the car, you might want to look at your adjustment(assuming the car still has it), and also look at where your seat is. Yes, YOU can be the reason for the notchy-ness, if you have your seat adjusted so you're not fully engaging/dis-engaging the clutch
Last edited by fastkevin; Nov 1, 2008 at 07:49 PM.
Dude..It hardly rained at all today, and right now in LA it's 67 degrees(7:45pm). It was in the 70's during the day.
Reagrding the "rough shifting", typically they're pretty notchy when new, and smooth out as they break in. My 9 was horrible when new, but it went away totally after 600 miles or so. I noticed my 10 was a tad notchy when I first got it, but with 400 miles or so, it's fine. I remember the 9 having facility to adjust the clutch, and haven't looked on the 10. If you're still experiencing probs after some miles on the car, you might want to look at your adjustment(assuming the car still has it), and also look at where your seat is. Yes, YOU can be the reason for the notchy-ness, if you have your seat adjusted so you're not fully engaging/dis-engaging the clutch
Reagrding the "rough shifting", typically they're pretty notchy when new, and smooth out as they break in. My 9 was horrible when new, but it went away totally after 600 miles or so. I noticed my 10 was a tad notchy when I first got it, but with 400 miles or so, it's fine. I remember the 9 having facility to adjust the clutch, and haven't looked on the 10. If you're still experiencing probs after some miles on the car, you might want to look at your adjustment(assuming the car still has it), and also look at where your seat is. Yes, YOU can be the reason for the notchy-ness, if you have your seat adjusted so you're not fully engaging/dis-engaging the clutch
No offense but you sound like you're just trying to find any reason as to why it would be MY fault for a bad ride.
It's not me.
Anyway, to the OP - the 2nd to 3rd gear shift is commonly notchy, as others have noted. That being said, if you don't "lazily" shift into 3rd and make your shift fairly quickly, there seems to be less of a problem.
Last edited by macPSU; Nov 1, 2008 at 10:23 PM.
When saying "the car drives/shifts rough when it is cold" - "it" is the car itself, not the outside temperature. When you first turn the car on, the shifting is known to be notchy, and it becomes better as the car warms up. Not sure why your "cold" day in LA affected the gearbox any more. I didn't notice a difference in my gearbox during a recent snowstorm when it was actually cold. Sure it took longer for the car to warm up, but it felt fine after it warmed up.
Anyway, to the OP - the 2nd to 3rd gear shift is commonly notchy, as others have noted. That being said, if you don't "lazily" shift into 3rd and make your shift fairly quickly, there seems to be less of a problem.
Anyway, to the OP - the 2nd to 3rd gear shift is commonly notchy, as others have noted. That being said, if you don't "lazily" shift into 3rd and make your shift fairly quickly, there seems to be less of a problem.
Usually when I first start the car up for the day, I will get about 10-13 MPG until maybe 20-30 minutes. After 20-30 minutes I'll get on average 16-19 MPG. (And I'm talking about on the streets).
Today on the way home it stayed at 13 MPG, when it would usually hit 16-19 somewhere in between my commute.
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Fellas, Why would one expect the tranny and the engine, for that matter, to run "great" when cold? MItsu has already indicated that you will pushing oil if one pushes the engine before operating temperature is achieved; tranny performance will also be below optimum performance.
For the future, look at your temp read out and if below normal operating temperature, baby it and expect poor performance especially shifting.
Later, Ken
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For the future, look at your temp read out and if below normal operating temperature, baby it and expect poor performance especially shifting.
Later, Ken
AMS intake and single exhaust
Iveytune (322 all around)
Robispec K&W
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If you really want to pick up a GSR right now, find one in the color you like and take it for a thorough test drive or two. If you find one with smooth, trouble-free gear shifts you might in the clear. Evidently (according the poll in the Drivetrain forum and from talking to a couple Mitsu service managers) not every GSR transmission has been having problems. Not exactly confidence inspiring, but if you're going to go through with it, make sure you pick up a good one.
Good luck.
Good luck.
Should I get the car with the good gearbox or the color I like?
Now:
People, I tested a light silver X from the start (I turned it on, completelly cold) and the car was working GREAT. A really smooth transmission all the way to fifth and back to first.
Then, the same day, 30 minutes after, I went into a red one, cold again, and the second and third gears were notchy.
I do not know if it will get better with mileage, since I wasn't able to drive 600 miles on any of them. But that thing about being cold must be bs... (I am NO mechanic, so dont bash on me :P)
I know that the warmer the car is, the smoother all the mechanical parts work, but that is no reason for 2 gears to get stuck.
I feel bad, because I am ok with the red one (although I would rather blue) but there is no way I would buy the silver one. I mean... it looks like a corolla....
Thx
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If you really want to pick up a GSR right now, find one in the color you like and take it for a thorough test drive or two. If you find one with smooth, trouble-free gear shifts you might in the clear. Evidently (according the poll in the Drivetrain forum and from talking to a couple Mitsu service managers) not every GSR transmission has been having problems. Not exactly confidence inspiring, but if you're going to go through with it, make sure you pick up a good one.
Good luck.
Good luck.
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Did you maybe write a sentece wrong? I am saying this because I do not understand what you mean
Should I get the car with the good gearbox or the color I like?
Now:
People, I tested a light silver X from the start (I turned it on, completelly cold) and the car was working GREAT. A really smooth transmission all the way to fifth and back to first.
Then, the same day, 30 minutes after, I went into a red one, cold again, and the second and third gears were notchy.
I do not know if it will get better with mileage, since I wasn't able to drive 600 miles on any of them. But that thing about being cold must be bs... (I am NO mechanic, so dont bash on me :P)
I know that the warmer the car is, the smoother all the mechanical parts work, but that is no reason for 2 gears to get stuck.
I feel bad, because I am ok with the red one (although I would rather blue) but there is no way I would buy the silver one. I mean... it looks like a corolla....
Thx
Should I get the car with the good gearbox or the color I like?
Now:
People, I tested a light silver X from the start (I turned it on, completelly cold) and the car was working GREAT. A really smooth transmission all the way to fifth and back to first.
Then, the same day, 30 minutes after, I went into a red one, cold again, and the second and third gears were notchy.
I do not know if it will get better with mileage, since I wasn't able to drive 600 miles on any of them. But that thing about being cold must be bs... (I am NO mechanic, so dont bash on me :P)
I know that the warmer the car is, the smoother all the mechanical parts work, but that is no reason for 2 gears to get stuck.
I feel bad, because I am ok with the red one (although I would rather blue) but there is no way I would buy the silver one. I mean... it looks like a corolla....
Thx
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Yeah mine's pretty rough too, especially when cold. I've learned to "shift around it" so to speak, but even when it's warmed up it's a bit notchy. STi guys also complain about their transmissions getting rough in the winter. I know it has something to do with the transmission fluid, but I certainly wouldn't recommend replacing it with anyone other than what Mitsubishi recommends.