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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 02:54 PM
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that driver looks like a girl
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 03:12 PM
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This thread is certainly amusing... what a bunch of maroons..

Anyways, what the Car Connection published photos indicate to me, is that Mitsu seems to still be moving ahead fairly quickly with the EVO X's development. I've seen a couple of sources that state that the production version is expected to be shown at the 2006 Geneva Motor Show. (Mar 2006).

Maybe this time they will show it sans that stupid engine cover, and hopefully we'll learn what the actual engine specs will be.
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 03:19 PM
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I just see an Evo 9....anyways...


Clutchless....are we talking clutchless Ricardo style, dual plate hydraulically actuated clutch PEDAL less....or a torque converter on a stupid automatic tranny?

If its sequential and has a "smart" clutch, then I want one. If not...keep it.
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 03:25 PM
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Adding to what I had said, the new M5 has a "cluchless" speed I think. Americans insisted on having a regular manual 6 speed. Cool, I guess....however, from riding bikes for several years now, and drag racing for a small portion of it i learned something

Having a sequential tranny and a clutch are awesome. I used an air shifter coupled with a spark eliminator that cut the ignition for 1/500th of a second or so and popped the bike into the next gear. Instant upshifts...INSTANT.

Now, the Ricardo style trannies electronically release the clutch with a variety of sensors if I am not mistaken....and the igniton cut or throtte chop will allow the next up shift immediately....

I do NOT see how this could be a negative. If it winds up sequental, they could even use straight cut gars, but the dopes there most likely will not....damn street cars.
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by feldguy
I do NOT see how this could be a negative. If it winds up sequental, they could even use straight cut gars, but the dopes there most likely will not....damn street cars.
straight cut gears have nothing to do with sequential or h-pattern boxes. The gears are always meshed inside a transmission and the dogs of selector forks engage the spinning gears to select the ratio. helical gearsets are used for one reason, because they're quiet. Believe me you don't want to drive any distance in a car with straight cut gears in the trans. It's loud as all get out...
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 03:30 PM
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Great post xtnct.

The comment from the Autoblog listing:
God bless the Nuerburgring in Germany and its demanding layout, for if those twists, turns and straight-aways weren’t the best in the world then there would be nothing for the telephoto lenses of spy photographers to capture. The Car Connection has shots of an Evo X mule running the ring wearing the modified duds of an Evo IX. The track is clearly widened in order to house much bigger and wider wheels than the current Evo’s footwear. TCC notes the next Evo, which should carry on the design language first spoken by the Concept-X, will share its platform with the Dodge Caliber, Mitsu Outlander and next PT Cruiser. We’re guessing that’s about all it will share with those vehicles, too.
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Axel
This thread is certainly amusing... what a bunch of maroons..

Anyways, what the Car Connection published photos indicate to me, is that Mitsu seems to still be moving ahead fairly quickly with the EVO X's development. I've seen a couple of sources that state that the production version is expected to be shown at the 2006 Geneva Motor Show. (Mar 2006).

Maybe this time they will show it sans that stupid engine cover, and hopefully we'll learn what the actual engine specs will be.
why hate the engine cover? It would be great for those spot checks on the road...

gee officer, it's totally stock... trust me..
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 03:58 PM
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Stick shift transmissions = old-n-busted. I'm sorry to all you die-hard old schoolers, but letting off the gas while accelerating is far from ideal. Sure it's fun to row through those cogs, but if you can't accept that the future of drivetrains WILL leave that process behind, you are denying progress.

Sure the current synchronized transmissions aren't perfect, look how long they've been in developement and the limited number of test vehicles. It will improve, maybe even in the next Evo. Give progress a chance!
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 04:04 PM
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Sorry but I trust BMW with the technology more than I ever will something made by Mitsubishi. I hope I'm wrong but I just don't see Mitsubishi outdoing the SMG.
How do you know the Evo X's transmission will be made by Mitsubishi? Why couldn't it be a Getrag, Borg-Warner, etc?
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Greg K
straight cut gears have nothing to do with sequential or h-pattern boxes. The gears are always meshed inside a transmission and the dogs of selector forks engage the spinning gears to select the ratio. helical gearsets are used for one reason, because they're quiet. Believe me you don't want to drive any distance in a car with straight cut gears in the trans. It's loud as all get out...

Duely noted, but if you read, I never said they had any correlation.

Just the same, the build of a sequential box lends itself to easier use of straight cut gears, or the other way around. I find having one without the other negates the purpose. I mean, sure, get a sequential helical cut gearbox and it works..however sraight cut gears are a much tougher build..in particular ways.

Noisey, one way or another.
All things equal, if I had the option of buying a hollinger style sequential straight cut gearbox in an Evo....


I'd buy it....in half a heartbeat.

The amount of bone jarring bumps, deafening sounds and uncomfortable experiences inside the Evo, are exacty why I bought the car.
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 04:31 PM
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Call me a dutche bag, the truth of the matter is we have no idea what the crap anything is going to look like, nor do we know what kind of trany options it will have. It looks like a IX to me with wide fenders. Mitsu can say anything they want, post anything they want in some mag, but I would bet my last dollar that the X will only be a shadow of that car. Maybe I am wrong, but we just need to sit back, watch and wait.
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 04:37 PM
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Is it typical to show a production level car 1+ years ahead of release? Typically I thought it was common to do no more than a few months. As n the Caliber shown in January being released in March.
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by alloyic_rs
dumbass's? who here hasnt downshifted from 5th to 3rd, 4th to 2nd with a standard manual? im sure many have... cant do it with a paddle shifter
Can't do it with a paddle shifter?? Tap it twice and its there, quicker then you would've with a clutch anyway... Not sure where your coming from with that.
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Tristar Racing
Why is anyone discussing the looks of this vehicle???

It is a test mule, a term used for a vehicle developed by a manufacturer to test drivetrain and other components. The body on mules is often that of a current production car to hide the identity or simply because final body components have not reached a production stage.

What does that mean? This car is supposed to look like a IX. The production X will bear no resemblence to this vehicle what-so-ever. It isnt supposed to be pretty, hence the odd bumps and shapes. Form follows function in the pre-production phase. Once again this is only the Evo X in drivetrain form.
Exactly do not use this topic to flame the looks it is all about testing the x at the n-ring. Stay on topic please.

Foul language misspelled or otherwise will not be tolerated.

Thanks for your cooperation...
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by thereplacement
I would bet my last dollar that the X will only be a shadow of that car. Maybe I am wrong, but we just need to sit back, watch and wait.
Your right... you are wrong, and I'd love to take your last dollar !
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