Just to correct some misinformation, the new technology part of the DSG is not an Audi product, it is made by BorgWarner, and called DualTronic. The rest of the gearbox is Audi (or actually maybe VW?) but there's nothing particularly innovative about the gears.

 

lol

 

And let me preempt the inevitable quote of Audi mpg figures being higher for the DSG... The "new" part of the DSG, the wet clutch system, is actually made by BorgWarner under the trademarked name DualTronic. If you read their claims carefully they NEVER claim the DSG to be as efficient as a manual. To quote:

"BorgWarner DualTronic(TM) is an industry-first wet-clutch and control- system technology for automated transmissions. It enables a conventional manual gearbox to function as a fully automatic transmission while delivering emissions and fuel economy improvements of up to 15 percent over TRADITIONAL AUTOMATICS, depending on the application."

 

good concept

 

I have the DSG on my A3. It's about the best auto tranny out there.
It has 3 modes:

1: Shift to "D" and it drives like a normal auto economy mode.
2: Shift to "S" and it's in the sport mode shifting later and downshifting early keeping the rpm at upper range (it kind of drives the way you would).
3: Tiptronic mode where you can either use the paddle on the steering or the shifter to change gears.

In the tiptronic mode you can shift up or down the way you would with a manual; but it does have safety features where once rpm reaches close to redline, it will shift up and when coming to a stop it will shift down automatically if you don't shift down yourself.

 

So we will have DualTronic from BorgWarner, 10-15 % better fuel efficiency than automatic transmissions. We also have direct inject that was used in the Lexus IS350's, giving a 21 hp and 21 ft/lbs of torque on that car, which will also will increase fuel mileage.(Fuel atomized better=less fuel to do the same work) I'd say combined with the lighter weight of the engine and aluminum panels ect... I'd say we are in for quite a ride.

BorgWarnerinfo: www.bwauto.com Direct inject info: http://www.sae.org/automag/techbrief...1-114-1-17.pdf

Not to mension that the engine has been spun 180 degrees (to put more weight in the middle of the car like it was back in the day's of Evo V, I think.)...add S-AWC and well I'm smiling. Yes, gentlemen smiling.

 

I hope that these concepts travel the country. I'd like to see the Eclipse Ralliart and the X come to Dallas.

 

i have to disagree with the evo X love on this one. i would absolutely rather have the eclipse ralliart. i dont like the way that the back of the X looks like at all!

 

I like the looks of this Concept X better than any previous generation EVO and that is one of the reasons I'm very interested in the development of the 10th iteration of this car.

Do any of you guys think that because Mitsubishi has decided to bring the concept car over here and show it as early as the Chicago Auto Show it's a hint that they want to generate lots of interest quickly? Will it have any impact on the timing of their release? I wonder whether lots of heavy duty interest expressed in this car may prod them along and push to get it out to the market faster. Just a thought.

 

[QUOTE=SWOLN]So we will have DualTronic from BorgWarner, 10-15 % better fuel efficiency than automatic transmissions. We also have direct inject that was used in the Lexus IS350's, giving a 21 hp and 21 ft/lbs of torque on that car, which will also will increase fuel mileage.(Fuel atomized better=less fuel to do the same work) I'd say combined with the lighter weight of the engine and aluminum panels ect... I'd say we are in for quite a ride.

BorgWarnerinfo: www.bwauto.com Direct inject info: http://www.sae.org/automag/techbrief...1-114-1-17.pdf

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You don't really think Lexus was the first to implement the direct injection do you? The Fuel Stratefied Injection (FSI) has been around for a while now. Take a look at the perennial winner of the LeMans 24 hour race...Audi R8 using FSI technology.

 

 

One can hope. May depend on feedback they receive during the show so make sure you tell the reps it’s great! And tell them they will need more than 5,000 of them shipped to the U.S.

I’m curious if there will be small modifications between the concept shown in Tokyo to what is shown in Chicago. I think if the inside is a different then that might indicate that they are moving faster on putting it into production. As it stands now the back seat would not pass U.S. laws (2002 models or later require LATCH). If it’s identical then they are just trying to generate interest. Showing it at Chicago also gives it a tad more attention than if it had gone up against the Camaro or Challenger Concepts at Detroit so perhaps a smart move on Mitsubishi’s part.

 

i wouldnt ever buy that evo 10.....to much of a box on wheels...

 

wow.... box on wheels?
i don't think it looks anything like an old volvo...

 

the X is sick, that eclispe Ralliart looks sick too, especially with the 4g63 in it, does it have AWD?