Actually, It will look like the concept!

 

I say next spring. Mitsu can ill afford to wait until 08 and let's face it the pevious series has been milked pretty well. Most I have read says late 06 early 07. They have been working on this for a while and if they are really seriously shaking down the mechanicals at the ring already......it will not be two years.

 

good job

 

Ok first i just want to say that if your going to say something is crap learn about it before doing so. A clutchpedalless transmisson is a great thing if done right. VW and Audi have the DSG. bmw has the smg. ferrari has the what ever i forgot that one. the smg is that great because bmw started with a bad platform. the dsg is great becuase it has two clutches one that does what a normal clutch does and another that "hold" the next gear ready. This makes seamless smooth amazing shifts. These transmissons are amazing and are a lot better then MT for racing and daily driving. But me personly still wouldn't want one. I need that clutch and the abillty to have to move the gear stick up and down. that what makes driving a sports car great is the MT. Sure its slower and more work but its fun. so i think Mitsubishi should make the clutchpedalless transmisson but only if it has a MT as an option

 

o and another thing i would like to add my cousin is buying the new 2006 VW GTI when it comes out and everyone he knows (execpt for me) is telling him to get the DSG transmisson but he is going to get the 6sp manual even though the car is .4 (i beleive) secs slower to 60.

 

Oh and for you out there, the acronym SMG refers to a Sequential Manual Gearbox

Good reply though. Preach on!

And just to add my thoughts, that DSG on the Audis....isnt there a severe torque limiting capacity due to the size of the clutches?

 

You could tap a paddle twice in less time than you could go 5th to 3rd on a stick.

 

i not sure but the only reason i don't think there is is because the Veyron has 980lbs of torque and it has the DSG but then again that transmission is huge so i don't know

 

Shifting is fun. To me Formula-1 is completely boring and WRC is getting there too. You could see how drivers suck in WRC when their seq. trannies break and they have to shift. I used to love old WRC, one of the most fun movies I've ever seen was Ari Vatanen climbing Pike's Peak in CO. And he was rowing.

What's next, you'll be watching cars race without a driver ?
If that's progress than please, call me old school.

Car - Go to the supermarket and grab me a sixpack!

 

Very amusing thread...
To all those worried about sharing platforms with DCX (Caliber/PT), understand the following.
designed the platform as the engineering lead. Essentially, it is their platform and DCX was permitted to use it for their models (due to the now dissolved equity ownership).
Further, a "platform" simply designates specific "hard points", such as the position of the A-pillar, door handle mechanism, power window motors, etc.
As such, obviously designed the needs of an EVO into the platform and did the appropriate R&D. Finally, just as with current EVO's, is likely going to do additional welding and other work (weight reduction...???) to stiffen the chassis and improve the vehicle overall.

 

I remember, awhile back, reading about the wheels on the Evo X being 1.5 inches wider than the present cars. That's wide.

Those wheels/tires in the pic are certainly wider than the present Evo IX.

Just my .02 cents worth.

 

I had a link to a website that had pictures of the Veyron completely disassembled....i can't find it.

The DSG tranny on that is a Ricardo sequential, with straight cut gears if I am not mistaken. Two hydraulically operated carbon/carbon clutches....so I dont know if Id call that a DSG...


From what I read, its basically as if the car had a pneumatic cylinder operating the clutch pedal with a computer operating the cylinder...so...maybe I mistakenly interpreted that, but the DSG is radically different from all the ferarri, bugatti and BMW trannies. I actually looked up the spec for it and a 280 lb ft torque rating is applied to it...which for most vehicles today, even a Chevy Trailblazer just isn't enough.

As far as the 10 goes, I think people should loosen up....it is what it is, and its nice to dream and chat about what everyone speculates it will be....

For me, my ideal Evo X would be an aluminum motor of 2.4 liter displacement, a 6 speed sequential box with a nice automated shifting system, ACD, AYC and finally let us have Anti Lag just for kicks.

The usual bells and whistles would be necessary, just the same Id like the turning radius improved...its terrible. Also some decently accurate gauges in a place OTHER than above the shifters 3rd gear position, and a 5'11" brunette with green eyes and big.....ideas about modding my new Evo 10

 

 

I think it will definately be an option. Too many still like that whole left foot right hand thing.

 

Wow, finally someone got it right. I've posted this before...

VW's (incl. Audi) DSG shifts VERY fast. If you're into drag racing, you cannot beat it with any manual tranny. It literally shifts as fast as the upgraded trannies in GT4. I always get a very strange sense of deja-vu if I've played GT4 and then go out to drive my wife's A3.

IMO the major shortcomings of the A3's DSG lies in the programming. Some general info on my experience with DSG:

- A double upshift is no problem - very fast
- coming off the line, the automated clutch doesn't always grab the way you think it will. IMO could easily be abused badly.
- I cannot downshift quickly, because it ALWAYS waits a split second to rev-match
- downshifting into a turn is also very annoying because of the rev-matching
- double downshifting is even worse...
- in full auto mode, it still keeps the revs too low (40mph in 6th gear?? WTH?)

I would also be very concerned about a DSG's ability to hold a lot of torque. IMO a DSG style transmission is great for people who aren't going to mod their car and don't drive overly aggressive. Me, I'll take a 5 or 6 speed manual anytime.

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