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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 04:57 PM
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http://www.mitsubishi-motors.co.jp/s...ish/index.html

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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 05:22 PM
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Aluminum DISSIPATES heat better than iron. Lots of the musclecar guys like to use aluminum heads to reduce weight and remove heat from the head more quickly, ie. they're then able to run more timing. If one uses aluminum in the proper shape/thickness with appropriate webbing, there aren't any issues with strength. In fact, there's actually an advantage with aluminum. Sure, it is weaker but by using more of it, it's just as strong but weighs substantially less and flexes less than steel.
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by hutch959
what does the motor rotation have to do with exhaust and intake flow???
Nothing. That wasn't what I meant. Before they turned the engines around the first time (early 90's) both Mitsubishi and Honda had to deal with the fact that the transmissions they used would send power to the ground in reverse of what was right. Mitsubishi solved it by adding another shaft to reverse the direction so you'd have five forward gears and one reverse, instead of five reverse and one forward. Honda did it by having their older engines turn counterclockwise. The K series solved that issue for them, and now, so will the World Engines for us.
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Old Feb 18, 2006 | 06:10 PM
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You guys are going to shoot me...

You guys are going to shoot me but I'm actually psyched the Evo X is going to have a clutchless manual/paddle shifters. In stop and go traffic or city driving, driving such a fast car slowly using a true manual transmission would irritate the hell out of me. A clutchless manual/paddle shifters would make it much more bearable.

But hopefully the Evo X won't be priced above say $35k. And they should have a version (stiff suspension, a true manual transmission, semi-spartan interior) to cater to hard-core enthusiasts like a lot of u guys.
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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 09:03 AM
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The world is waiting on the EVO X, not just Mitsubishi fans. It will establish a new standard for performance. Can you name another car that provides just as much performance at the Evo's price point, but has better luxury/comfort or ergonomics? The STi does not provide the same or better performance and it certainly doesn't look better.
You know, I've been talking to more and more people about the Current Evo's (VIII, IX) and it seems as though they will bring up the X not me, so when you stated the world is waiting for it you were right on the money.
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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 10:05 AM
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I love my Evo's... But I'm also really liking the X.. I will have my modded EvoVIII, and most likely I will be getting the X... Just cause I thinks it's visual appeal is right on point, and I'm sure I'll have a lot of fun with it otherwise... Now, to be a tractable car, we shall see.. But then again, that's what my VIII is for... I busted my azz for my VIII, and I'll continue to bust it for the X... And it'll be a wonderful surprise if in fact the X, beats up on the VIII and IX... We shall see...
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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by bounce
It will be very interesting to see how this car does when put through its paces. On paper it sounds like it will easily out handle all previous Evo incarnations.
Looks like it might...
Don't worry. The new Roll Control System seems to be a "licensed" version of the
Kinetic™ Energy Suspension System used by to dominate the Dakar rally for the past few years. It's the same system used by Citroen and Sabastien Loeb to win the WRC THREE times in a row.

Here's some more info and another opinion...

Roll Control: Best Suspension Design In 25 Years!

http://www.zorce.com/zforums/viewtop...770007b9a8a1f4

NOTE: I've edited the post and added this new info below...

Roll Control Suspension
Roll Control Suspension (RCS) effectively reduces body roll and pitching by hydraulically connecting all the shock absorbers together and regulating their damping pressures as necessary. Able to control both roll and pitching stiffness separately, RCS can operate in a variety of ways. It can, for example, reduce roll only when required during turn in or in other situations while being set up on the soft side to prioritize tire contact and ride comfort. Since the system controls roll stiffness hydraulically, it eliminates the need for stabilizer bars. In the integrated control of its component systems, S-AWC employs information from RCS's hydraulic system to estimate the tire load at each wheel.
http://www.kinetic.au.com/techno.html
The Roll Control System may be based on Citroen Xara / "Dakar" Pajero Kinetic Reverse Function Stabiliser System (RFS) after all, and not the Kinetic H2 System as suggested.

Kinetic™ RFS Technology... So Good The FIA Banned It For The 2006 WRC!

http://www.kinetic.au.com/news.html

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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 04:13 PM
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Looks like it might...
Holy crap Batman(nix), good find. That is sooooooooo what is going to be on the X. Props.

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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 04:42 PM
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I want to put my name on the waiting list!
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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 05:00 PM
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OK...so I watched the video but I didn't understand shiet....I think it was all of that japanese mumbo jumbo that was throwing me off....where can I get the subtitled version?
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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 06:17 PM
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Hopefully the paddle shift will perform something like this. http://www.racecar-engineering.com/...shift_14_N2.pdf ...and suspension like this one. http://www.creuat.com/
Forever it seems like, I posted the above quote, but in the creuat site, under other interconnected suspension systems, they reference the Kinetic RFS system. I suppose that as a tuner I was wondering if the RFS system could be replaced by the Kinetic X system, which allows for ride height, or the creuat system all together. Just a couple million more dollars, and I then I could do it.
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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 11:24 PM
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There is also an article in the new "sport compact car" about the x and the s-awc. Even has a graph on how it is supposed to work during a turn.
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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 11:59 PM
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^ ^ ^ Yup check the link...

The NeXt Evolution... for the "dial-up" challenged
http://www.zorce.com/zforums/viewtopic.php?t=1252
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 12:37 PM
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Kinetic RFS Description for those who can't wait to download. There are other pictures at the Kinetic site so that one can see the full monty if you choose. Obviously, I'm incompetent with images.



Conventional roll stabiliser bars fitted to most modern vehicles work well to reduce vehicle body roll during cornering but also greatly increase single wheel and articulation stiffness, which reduce ride comfort and the vehicles ability to maintain equal wheel loading on uneven surfaces. Suspension designers struggle to find a balance between these ride parameters as each compromises the other. The Kinetic Reverse Function Stabiliser System or RFS can retain conventional bounce and damping methods and works by splitting the roll stabiliser bars using a simple cradle device incorporating a double acting hydraulic cylinders. These cylinders are connected using kinetics unique proprietary RFS arrangement . This arrangement passively frees the bars to allow articulation and single wheel type movements but will not permit vehicle body roll. This roll stiffness and "articulation looseness" are achieved simultaneously with neither mode effecting the other. This system requires no computers, pumps or motors.

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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 12:21 AM
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Concept X @ Geneva

http://www.salon-auto.ch/en/premiere...dContent=46076
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