Who's to say this new engine won't be 3x better than the 4g63?

 

Confirmed STI redesign for '08


Rumors are they are going for a more BMW M5 look... (more luxury )


I do remember something about it going to a hatch back prlly just speculation still

 

The IX isn't a platform change from the VIII though...plus there are little differences between the VIII and the IX. the X however is a completely NEW concept...

And also about your "due to their many problems" comment about Mitsubishi, that is exactly why they are making the evo more of a mainstream car...to save their asses.

 

The sky is falling. The sky is falling.

The Evo is Mitsu's flagship I don't think they are going to screw it up too badly if they are counting on it to save the company. It's too early to rush judgement on things we know very little about.

That said I think they understand the market that loves the Evo and I don't think they would make the same mistake and alienate us again.

The new engine block is in the Caliber SRT-4 and they are claiming 300hp in that. Who knows what difference there will be in internals from Dodge to Mitsu or what it's mod friendlyness will be.

Pricing will almost definately be higher because there is a lot nicer looking materials being used, lots more technologyand, supposedly we will be getting SAWC. Also that is just how things are, prices keep going up and up. It's called inflation get used to it.

You also have to consider this is their flagship and no car company wants everyone to be able to afford their flagship vehicle. They have to give you something to "aspire"to in their line up and have it carry some status. It sucks but thats the truth.

 

Two things....

First....For 14yrs, I am impressed by your ability to apreciate the movement of auto industry. Keep your eyes and ears open and don't get sucked into a single enthuisast group. It is a great time for the automobile.

Second.
Normally I would agree the quote above, but I have one word for you. ECLIPSE.
In 99 the GSX was the car to have for AWD Turbo (pre-WRX), now it just plain sux, because it matured or (dare I say it?) evolved. The only hope for the Eclipse is that Ralliart one with the 4G63 in it. That looks promising.

I think your concerns are valid, but with the awesome of variaty that we have as consumers today, your choices are limitless. Good times. At 14 you have plenty of time to form some good opnions and watch as many cars evolve into icons like never before. We are in the NEW Muscle car era! Z06, M5/M6, Viper Trucks, SVT Lightnings, Hyabusas(SP?), STi, New Supra and RX7s?

Ooh, and why I am thinking about it, you should get into karting now.

/<

 

From what I heard the Sti's are going to have flat-6 motors and have about 360hp+ and the Evo X will have a 2.4 liter powerplant.

 

I heard it will have a flux capacitor and run on "Jesus juice" or happy feelings depending on your area of the country.

Sorry, I couldn't stop myself. Been sitting in front of the computer too long.

 

i wouldnt be concerned about the X, because i mean, from the evo history, since when has the evo gone bad from its predecessors. it keeps getting better, thats how it got its name, evolution. i'm sure mitsu knows what theyre doing. i mean look at the 03 Evos, it was already appraised by all for being such a wonderful machine, and then comes the 05, which is a little broader in performance. then finally, the IX, everyone was concerned about the MIVEC ruining the evos tuning capabilities, however, it was ironic. it turned out to be responsive (also due to the larger turbo). however, no worries. im sure this thing will be just like any new evo, its always better than its predecessors.

 

knowing that mitsu confirmed upon going back to the WRC in 08, im pretty sure the evo X will still be a 2L car, as opposed to the 2.4L.

 

I dont know guys, im still not buying it. Why comment on how the interior will be so much better and how the center console will be when you didn't even see it yet? Plus, the comments on how the vehicle's SAWC responds can be fabricated. I couldve told you that by looking at mitsu's mpegs on SAWC on their website. They also state that the outside looks like an evo VIII, but the inside is "pure EVO X". If thats the case, if its pure evo X, then it would have the evo X engine.

And i still dont buy the fact that of all the people that would get a first shot at testdriving it outside of Mitsu, it would be a UK magazine. I figured JDM mags would get first dibs on testing it. And on top of that, since when have you ever ever heard of a 3rd party magazine getting rights to testdrive a mule? When? No car company ever lets their mules get testdriven by any outside sources. Thats why theyre mules. Maybe the concepts, but never the test mules. I still dont buy it.

 

Or the WRC car will just have the 2 litre version of the engine.

Also the Evo will not save the company it's just too niche of a car. All performance cars are niche cars to one degree or another. The lancer, galant, and mitsu SUV/CUVs will have to change to save the company. That doesn't mean a stylish performance vehicle with a history of great value won't do wonders for Mitsu's image and help drive sales.

The Lancer is not going to compete with the Corrola or the Civic and the Galant is not going to do it against a Camry or Accord. So Mitsu needs to find it's angle. They will probably go performance (Driven to Thrill) like Mazda and Nissan have gone with their 3/6 and the Altima/Maxima. At some point Mitsu will bring in the MIEV technology and that will make them really stand apart.

 

i think the review made it clean it was NOT an evoX at all. just like how the skyline mule was just a g35coupe w/ turbos and beefed up internals. i bet this "Test mule" is just an evo 8 with the will-be evoX new updated AYC and ACD setup. everything else as stated in the review is not from from first hand.

so i dont get why you'd jump down their throat waving the BS flag

 

I'd have to agree on this one sounds like crap to me. Japanese mags would get dibs seeing as the concept hasn't ven been displayed here in the US or in the UK.

Although the tester is the same guy who does a bunch of stuff for Edmunds.com. He did the test on the Evo wagon (still a shame they didn't bring that over here).

 

That would be great but I don't have much hope of that happening. Why else have all the info saying 2008? Smokescreen for competitors?

It is a bit odd that they are testing mules on the ring in Germany if they are still 2 years from finished production. The average time from complete concept to production is usually 2-3 years (The Camaro concept doesn't have a finalized platform and even GM can manage a 3 year development cycle). The X has an existing platform and engine (already in production on the Caliber) so it should be faster than that.

The biggest suprise we can hope for is an early 07 launch as an 08 model. I think you can call an 08 model anytime after Feb 1 or maybe Mar 1.

 

Halo cars can boost tremendous revenue within its brand, it doens't matter if it's built as a performance niche car. That's not always the point.
It's there to convert brand buyers and boost sales within its own model lineup. It gets technological praise, amazing publicity and brand recognition. Like when I say "Viper" what do you automatically think of? Dodge.