The current chassis is 100% the same as any other Lancer, they just put ~200 extra welds on it and some extra bracing beind the rear seats, etc. Most of the body panels and nearly the entire driveline is bespoke, but the interiors are nearly identical save for the obvious. So, they aren't "loosely based" but rather exactly based on them as far as the "platform" is concerned. There are no more homologation rules for WRC but these cars still compete basically as-is in lower levels of rally competition.

 

I may not be a car expert but I know that Sport Compact Car mag is the least of my favorites when it comes to future vehicle predictions. They write stories out of the blue, pretty much make up a lot of stuff without any actual interviews or facts. Anyway, take a look at this: http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/fe...n_x/index.html it basically mentions that unofficially Concept-X is 90% the next EVO, so basically that magazine contradicts it self when you take into account your magazine story and how it says that it won't be like the Concept-X.

 

Not sure what point you're trying to belabor here. It's not 100% the same car by any means, as you confirmed. Note I said "parts," not "chassis before complete rewelding treatment." In every other country in the world, the Evolution is the Evolution, not the Lancer Evolution. And quite often in the automotive industry, "platform" means chassis, driveline, engine, suspension and most interior equipment save vinyl and exterior body panels. I'm not scared they'll derive the Evo from the Lancer (duh), I'm scared they'll derive the Lancer from a less-race-tested, less-bulletproof, less-proven "cross-company" car with German DaimlerChrysler's cost-cutting as the top priority. This is obviously all conjecture at this point.

Perhaps I should have specifically asked "what % of parts on the car could you order from Mitsubishi that are identical for both USDM base Lancers and Evos?" The question was semi-rhetorical, and regardless, this thread is about the Evo X.

Best,
Adam

 

Good to know. The guy who wrote the article said it's not like the prototype they released in the 2005 Tokyo Motor show.

 

Dude, you are waaay off. The Evo is the Lancer Evolution everywhere because it is based on the Lancer, they are all made in the same place.

Mitsubishi developed the platform and licensed it to Chyrsler. It just so happens that the Chryser versions have made it to market first.

The ricers and the domestic heads will constantly say "Oh its just a tarted up Compass or Caliber with aWD and turbo" so what. The Vin will still start with the letter "J" and it the door sticker will still say "manufactured by Mitsubishi Motors Corporation"

 

not trying to get off topic, but has anyone got any actual pics of the new X. i havent seen anything but some sketches and i think the first concept pic.

 

 

Random not on-topic question for DOWNxSHIFT regarding your sig.... You're making 276 whp on stage 4 with a protune? Isn't that kinda low? I was making 220 whp on a 06 WRX Sedan stock before I drove it into a wall. Impressive, I'm not hating, just asking a question why your numbers seem kinda low for being stg 4.

Back to the topic. Look at the Ralliart, look at the Evo. They share probably 98% interior components, exterior...they share the front doors. Wait till Mitsubishi says "Here is the Evo X" and THEN discuss it. The horse is dead, and you guys are still beating the **** out of it.

 

He has an 05 WRX (2.0L), you had an 06 WRX (2.5L). The 06 has been known to dyno HP/TRQ significantly more than it's previous model.

 

Perhaps you could exit this thread if you're not going to discuss the Evo X...that is what this thread is about, and the only one off-topic here is you. And on the Lancer = Evo question, you're still flat wrong. Look up the part numbers of the whole car in the shop manuals, it's more like 25% shared overall, max. Have you ever even owned either car you're arguing about?

Back to topic at hand, does anyone have any clue about what kind of transmission the Evo X will employ? Is it a true SMG-like paddle-shift manual or is it a weak automatic with buttons to select gears slowly? Will it be originally designed for this car or will it be based on any existing technology from Mitsu or DaimlerChrysler? Curious...

Cheers,
Adam

 

That would make too much sense. Part of the "fun" for some people is the posturing, speculating, and the "I'm buying something else" threats.

 

Owned a Ralliart, traded it in for a WRX that I totalled, now I'm getting a VW GTI. I said that I was asking an off topic question so...yeah, I was off topic. On the topic...have you ever sat inside of a Ralliart and an Evo 8? It's the exact same interior with the exception of a _few_ small changes, besides the seats and steering wheel. Dash board, radio, yada yada.

 

Going by your logic, VW GTI is the same thing as regular Golf, STI is the same as WRX, they all have very similar interiors but they drive differently, you can't really say that Ralliart and Evo are the same cars. They may share the same gauges, buttons, speedometers but they definately do not drive the same and that is what really makes then that much different and thats what matters to car enthusiasts.

Platform sharing is whats hot in the car industry now, I dont think there is a single production car (affordable car) on the market that has it's own platform solely designed for itself.

 

Yeah the prototype is an yellow Evo VIII with the S-AWC system incorporated. Sounds like interesting stuff.

The article I really liked was the rally article Return to Glory...or to rallying an old piece of crap, at least.. by Dave Coleman. That guy's writing style is great!

 

I agree, but would only change the statement about it being hot now. Platform sharing is nothing new and has been around for decades. Some companies just do it better then others.

The S2000 and the Lotus Elise are the cheapest car I can think of that have their own platforms, then the Viper. Even the Corvette Zo6 shares its base architecture with other Vettes and the Cadillac XLR. And then there are many versions of the 911. But in those cases at leats they are all sports cars.

I don't know what percentage of the Evo is shared with the Lancer, but its basic shell and frame are the same. Why people can't get over that is beyond me. The end result is so fantastic it shouldn't matter how it was built.

If you are so hung up on exclusivity, its best you don't buy any mass produced car at all and get something handbuilt like a Ferrari or Bentley.