Well I should have used better words, but my point was that platform sharing is very popular in the automotive industry and actually it is a lot more difficult to find a sole car based upon it's own unique platform then it is to find a vehicle with a shared platform. Car companies obviously do that to save money, Mitsubishi actually did a great job with distinguishing Lancer and Evo, interior may be very similar but because of different engine, suspension, more rigid frame, it really drives differently.

On the other hand, Chrysler for example, on the same platform you have Dodge Charger, Magnum, and Chrysler 300, and as different as those cars may look on the outside, inside they all look the same and they basically drive the same (I drove all of them), there is no real distinction in the driving experience and I think that is platform sharing at it's worst (from car enthusiasts point of view) although the mentioned cars actually sell decently and Chrysler Corp. is in the least financial trouble than GM or Ford so I guess they are doing something right.

 

Sorry for the hijack guys... Just to answer the question, like Arithmetic said I have the 2.0L engine and you have the 2.5L. I have about 170whp stock and you have 200whp stock. But even w/ the 2.5L, the TD04 turbo is pretty small and wont put out numbers over 250 whp w/o a Turbo upgrade.


I really hope the X doesnt come in an automatic (yes yes paddles, ). Hopefully more pictures will surface soon. Id love an Evo X in either a burnt orange metallic (ie 06 RSX or the 2G Eclipse color) or a neon-yellow-green like Krypton Green for the Elise.

my take...

 

The question is what transmission will the EVO X debut with. It will have a DSG flavor and a manual, but we don't know which one will launch first, or both.

 

I hope not. Automatics suck.

 

The post I was referring to here was the one that stated that the evolution contained something like less than 25% of the same parts as the lancer little brothers. I'm not saying the 286 hp evo is anything like the 162 hp ralliart in terms of power, though they handle quite similarly.

 

(Rgding the offtopic side convo we were having) I didn't realize the 2.0 to 2.5 made that much difference, I thought it was mostly on the torque side and a few ponies, but not 30. I was a suby newbie though....hence the fact that mine is totalled now (boy does AWD handle differently).

( Back to the topic at hand, all 300 pages of it) Although I positively despise auto transmissions, I drove the GTI in 6 speed DSG with paddle shifters and although it's not nearly as responsive as an actual stickshift, the shift response time was incredible, and the paddles were pretty fun to play with. All in all though, I'm going pick up my 6 speed manual in anthracite gray today with package 1 and the VW 18s

I think that the earlier photos of the car ( which I believe someone right above me posted in some hideous lime green color) are going to be nearly spot on. It's enough of a redesign to be called a new model, but still very similar in many aspects to the original evolution design. I mean honestly...how much has the body of the evo changed since...what...the 6? Not a insurmountable amount.

And an afterthought:
I believe the reason for Mitsubishi choosing to have an optional 6 speed manual or 6 speed DSG would be the same reason the Subaru is releasing the STi Limited. Middle aged people don't always want to have to rip through gears. You sell an Evolution that anyone can drive, and you sell more evolutions. You sell an evolution that only stickshifters can drive, you don't sell as many.

 

spoken by somebody who hasn't owned an evo and would not want to know the real difference

do ralliarts come with aluminum suspension arms, hood, fenders and roof? is the body double welded for strength? does it have acd, ic, oil coolers and of course a turbo? if it does, then it must be an evo not a ralliart.

 

I said interior, you're talking chassis, drivetrain, exterior. I have a friend with a RA with an Evo8 wing and have had TONS of people start asking him about his evo. If they're that easy to confuse, are they THAt different looking?

 

The article was interesting. It sounds like there are a lot of rough edges to be worked out with the new AWD system. I can even begin to imagine the work that goes into creating systems like that The EVO is getting smarter and smarter with every model. I wonder if it will ever get to the point that it is just boring to drive?

 

i really hope they completely change the styling...

the car is too tall (as evo's have always been), and the rear is way too huge looking. The tail lights are overtaken by the huge evo X ***. As for the front, its decent looking and its growing on me.

i dont like that they're straying from their roots. Glad i still have the last 4g63 made baby.

 

I read the article as well. As of now, it sounds like there's still much work of fine tuning the S-AWC. But the concept is great! Actually, I'll be looking forward to the paddleshifting feature of the new Evo.

The other thing is, he also said in teh beginning interview article that the Evo X would not be a let down...like what they did with the Eclipse.

 

Yea the 2.5L engine is a monster, it makes awesome power.

I made that car! lol, it came out a bit too candy than i wanted.

the STi Limited is 6speed Manual. the only difference between it and a normal STi is Paint (satin white pearl, or urban gray), black brembos, silver rims (different style than usual), small M3 style spoiler, Sirius, AUX Input jack, and leather heated seats.

 

FTW! Case closed. :-)

Anyway, so the new issue of SCC has a brief editorial on "Dr. Evo" Hiroshi Fujii, lead designer of the Evo since the VII, and a test-drive (without pics) of the Evo X "Super-All Wheel Control" system, check it out.

When asked if the Evo X would be watered-down like the Eclipse, he was puzzled, and said "Don't worry. The evo X will be superior to the Evo IX. Much, much superior." Now that warms the heart. :-)

[Aside: read James Tate's SCC column on car showers having too much money and too little class -- he hit the nail on the head. I know first-hand that James needs a Margarita badly, he's been pissed off last few columns (but so right on!). :-)]

-Adam

 

I totally agree! I still would have to say No.

 

This might be of interest.

Personally, I prefer having a third pedal.