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Old Apr 3, 2006 | 10:18 AM
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from what I hear they are taking away a big part of the tuning aspect of the car
what do you mean? details, please!
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Old Apr 3, 2006 | 11:10 AM
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For the most part Evos are complex cars to be worked on. So many different things you have to do in order to perform one simple task. We as tuners work with each other and give advice and info. The X on the other hand is going to be a different animal. We know that the drivetrain as far as the trans, axles, and diffs are going to be fully electronically controlled. Thus, we won't be able to replace a clutch if it slips...We'll replace a $9000 dsg trans. Overall the engine lay out is said to be different, but how difficult can an engine be to work on? Internal combustion engines are what they are so that shouldn't be a problem.
But the computers involved are so complex we will only be able to do so much from a tuning aspect. + if you want your evo X to be a 400+ hp monster.... good luck with your drivetrain! I work with DSGs all day and they do not hold up to upgrades very well. (at least not the recent ones) Basically they are trying to put all the little tricks and gadgets that Audi, BMW, and Mercedes have to sell to an upper class. When you have enough money to buy an $40,000 + evo and you know its heritage and you have grown to love the car for all that you've read about past models you will want to test and tune the car and some people will want to push it to it's limits. But this model will have more limits than any other.
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Old Apr 3, 2006 | 12:05 PM
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^On the flipside of your argument it could also have the potential to be tuned unlike any previous Evo due to it's new technology (flashback to Mivec). I doubt mitsu will lose the Evo's focus and heritage; if they wanted a flagship tech-showoff that isn't for tuners they would have called it a Galant X, which it looks like anyway. But they didn't.
Have more faith in mitsu and wait till it's out before making too many assumptions!
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Old Apr 3, 2006 | 12:26 PM
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Evo X curb weight?

Does anyone have a good guestimate of what the Evo X curb weight
might be?
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Old Apr 3, 2006 | 12:32 PM
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If you've read any of the official press releases, it would seem that Mitsu is saying it's going to weigh less than the IX
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Old Apr 3, 2006 | 12:59 PM
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I do definitely agree with you on that. Mitsu engineers have been able to amaze us all so far! I guess it's just because there are so many car companies that have improved certain models to the point where they are watered down and lost their magic element. I just don't want to see the evo go that way. Ya know?
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Old Apr 3, 2006 | 03:51 PM
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From the "information" gathered it seems that Concept X is actually shorter than Evo IX but a bit wider (good for overall control/handling of the car I guess). It will also use aluminum engine and some aluminum body panels (hood, roof, trunk lid). So it seems that Evo X (if it stays somewhat true to Concept X) actually might be a lighter car than the previous generation.

Anyway, from the interviews with designers of Concept X it seems that there is huge emphasis onbody weight reduction. I also hope that they will improve and decrease the turning-circle radius on Lancers.
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Old Apr 3, 2006 | 03:59 PM
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That's very good to know... with the added million other gadgetries on top of
current Evo 9 and rumor of making Evo 10 plush to compete with the M3...
really afraid that Evo 10 could be piggy at 3500+ lbs...
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Old Apr 3, 2006 | 04:03 PM
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I dont really believed what mitsu is saying right now but IMO I think the next evo X is heavier. It might be lighter in japan but here its gotta be heavy.
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Old Apr 3, 2006 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by WICKed'N'EVO
I dont really believed what mitsu is saying right now but IMO I think the next evo X is heavier. It might be lighter in japan but here its gotta be heavy.
Well, one thing you have to remember is that Evo X is being designed in Europe (I emphesize that in my posts) because one thing about Europeans and European design is that they rarely produce overweight, heavy bloated cars (which is mostly an American thing). So actually I still believe that Evo X will weight less or about the same as the current generation.

Eclipse was never a rally car, it actually didn't have any heritage to follow, it was designed for Americans (I mention Eclipse because it is a good example how from generation to generation it became a heavier car but it was actually designed by Americans for Americans where Lancer is a global car, BUT actually the current Eclipse is the fastest stock non-turbo Eclipse ever produced)
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Old Apr 3, 2006 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by blitzkrieg79
Well, one thing you have to remember is that Evo X is being designed in Europe (I emphesize that in my posts) because one thing about Europeans and European design is that they rarely produce overweight, heavy bloated cars (which is mostly an American thing). So actually I still believe that Evo X will weight less or about the same as the current generation.
While I wouldn't call Euro cars heavily bloated cars... they do increase in weight
each generation... Look at BMW,Mercedes and Audis...Now the VW GTI
"sportscompact" weighs a hefty 3300lbs (150 more than my E36 M3)!??
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 09:33 AM
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WOW, i dont like it, the back of the car is just cut off, its just flat......thumbs DOWN!
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 09:54 AM
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Lets just all hope it does not go the same route the eclipse/talon did. You know from turbo AWD to N/A FWD V6...that would just plain kill me.....

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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by JT-KGY
While I wouldn't call Euro cars heavily bloated cars... they do increase in weight
each generation... Look at BMW,Mercedes and Audis...Now the VW GTI
"sportscompact" weighs a hefty 3300lbs (150 more than my E36 M3)!??
According to Mitsubishi website, 2006 Evolution MR weights in at 3285 pounds, so not so far off of the new VW GTI, but it still is a very quick and agile car. It's the new damned safety laws that make the new cars heavier. You think that the designers don't know/don't realize the car weight problem?

Anyway, Mitsubishi is under new management, they are starting to actually generate profit in Japan and Europe but thats because they are releasing new and exciting products, the i Car, Colt, new L200, new Outlander, those cars plain simply look very good, at least a whole lot better than what we see here in USA. Mitsubishi is struggling in USA and will continue to lose sales until they won't introduce new designs going in totally different direction. Their current USA offerings, from aesthetic point of view are just unattractive, period. I just don't see Mitsubishi making much of a recovery with their current lineup and that includes the 2006 Eclipse.

Good news is that new products are on the horizon, Outlander, Lancer, Evo, and a bit later the new global Galant, and lets not forget about their MIEV technology which has a huge potential of powering cars with its in-wheel motors, this would change the way cars look as the space where front engines of today are mounted would basically become empty meaning lighter and totally different looking cars.
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 02:31 PM
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I like that drawing alot better than the actual car, it retains an evo appearence. i cant believe my eyes looking at the x. WTF!!!
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