Articles I've read have said Mitsu plans on upping the content substantially (luxury interior), adding more techno bits (traction control, advanced AWD system - SAWC ), making the car larger, and adding more power - some think it's an attempt to compete with the M3. Based on all those things, some industry watchers are saying the price has to climb to the high 30s/low 40s in order to pay for all that stuff - plus it would still be a bargain compared to the M3. The current MR stickers around $36K, and I don't think it's a stretch to think with all the new stuff added they'd up the sticker a grand or 2. I'm hoping that either these predictions are wrong or Mitsu maybe offers a de-contented car so that those who don't want to drop that kind of money would still be able to get the performance without all the other luxury & non-essential stuff. A heavier car is going to suck for autocrossing.

 

Subaru's recent ventures have been pretty disappointing compared to Mitsu. What will be on their mind when the market gets flooded with AWD turbo monsters like the X, srt, and skyline?

 

question is whats the mpg? thats all i care....

 

the X is horrible.

 

hoepfully performance keeps going up, and the engine bullet proof like the 4g63

 

+1

 

Maybe and correct me if Im wrong but if the paddles are on the column theyd have to be slightly behidn the sterring wheel and if thats the case then durring a few select times the steering wheels position would make the paddles completel in accessable...depending on the size of paddles and the size sections holding the wheel part to the horn part.

Anyways Iv called a few mitsu dealers in my neck of the woods and was told but all of them itll be offered in a clutch version...which I really need because I need a clutch manual.Thats just how I roll.

Also on a side note if I put the 40k or so down before it releases any body know what the odds are I coudl get one early?I recall before the new body style mustang was officially released there was a black GT for sale in one of the richer towns here in Connecticut and the guy ended up not wanting it.Not sure if he just paid for it up front or paid a lil extra.

 

People dont need to find faults...there are faults to everything the bottom line is your not gonna sway people that are hardcore into their clutch and vise versa.

As far as Im concerned if the DSG lacks a clutch (Im not familiar with it and havent been keeping up to date on the forums due to being over seas (US Soldier) so I could just be sounding liek an idiot) then you have less car control.I race dirt bikes have for years and Iv taken my skill and tricks of driving a dirt bike and applied some of them to driving a car.The ability to control power to the wheels by feathering the clutch and other such tricks to me macks traditional manual superior.Nothign like pulling up next to a lil Honda ricer and makin your car lerch forward violently....it might not be practical or anything along those lines but it sure is great to watch their face...and that to me is pricless.

 

I don't think that Skyline is a direct competition to Evo, first off Evo is a rally, gravel, dirt first kind of car where Skyline is more of a asphalt sports car, and probably most important of all I don't think they even going to be in the same price range, I can see an Evo X going for around $40K but I have a feeling that Skyline will be a bit more than that, more like $60K.

 

I still don't know why you guys are freaking out about this paddle deal. A 5 speed is being offered too. You don't think they are going to put paddles in the base lancer do you? What would be trick is, if the base lancer comes out with a 6 speed. Then we will have options.

 

The GTi DSG paddles are attached to the steering wheel.

 

How is Subaru lame? Last I checked the STi was priced less than the MR and offered performance between the MR and GSR. How is that lame? That's competitive. And the STi offers upgrades like top notch gauges, a decent stereo, and gimiki things like DCCD.

And how exactly is the Skyline and EVO competition? If the Skyline is competition, why not add the Lambo Galliardo, Bugatti Veron, and Porsche 911 TT. Price usually dictates the competition, and the Skyline will be significantly more expensive then the next EVO.

 

i agree the X sports the GTO look

 

OMG, im loving the new evos...i hope its exactly as it is.

 

I was reading in this months issue of a more reputable sport compact magazine (I'm not sure which one, but check the news stands. It's on the cover.) That the editor had met up with Dr. Evo (our cars current design manager) and said that he had tested a true development car, and he said it was mostly finished. Other than that no details could be shared. Oh, and he told him that people in the US were worried that the performance of the X would be lacking, and he replied that "The EVO X will be better than the IX. Much better.