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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 06:10 AM
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Some people may like it. Some don't. Bottom line is the Evo X will be a huge success. Total improvements over the IX are just overwhelming; everything but performance is a firm step forward. Only the purist/hardcore driver should think of buying a IX right before the X-gen kicks in. I love my Evo to pieces but sometimes I grow tired of its crudeness. I need a more refined car, and the X gives me great vibrations. I think of it like a BMW M3 with the soul of an Evo. I guess I'm getting old.
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 06:40 AM
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I think for 50K they would be a able to transform 4b11T into 8b11TT that would
be a Ferrari and Porsche killer. And I am sure event at 60K their would be a market for it.
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 06:42 AM
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Comparing the Evo to the IS-F? Isn't that a 50K+ car? Not even in the same market. Nor is the M3.

Let's stick to STi, MS3 and MS6
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 06:45 AM
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The only one in that group that makes any sense is the G35. The ISF and M3 are going to cost considerably more money than the X. Performance wise they will be close I'm sure but, because of price they don't fall into the same category to me.
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 07:05 AM
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I have the evo IX already and considering trading up the IS for something. If the X outperforms all the cars that I mentioned then there will be a X in my driveway. Until then, I think I am looking at the IS-F to replace my 14,000 mile only IS300. price is not a consideration in this choice for me but performance.
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 07:05 AM
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You are making 2 assumptions:
Yes I am,and so are you. So is everyone in this forum. Unless you're on the Evo team you are making assumptions. If we aren't allowed to guess or assume anything in this forum,since it's a "future" Evo forum,we won't have any threads,boss.

1) The Prototype X show car (which is not necessarily one of the prototypes that have been running around the ‘Ring) has all the things on it that the Production car will have.
OK,so since you dont know any better,you criticize my guess by guessing yourself?

Besides,we've been told over and over that the most recent car shown at Detroit is pretty much the Evo we're getting,aside from some interior cosmetics,headlight and mirror changes. Look it up. No one knows for sure,but the Detroit car is the closest thing to production we've seen,and it's odd that it's missing a major feature.

2) The roll control system doesn't have "sway bar" end links.
See above
Again you are assuming what type of roll control system Mitsu will use.
And since you dont KNOW for sure either,you're assuming yourself. Fact is,if it has bars,it's not using the superior system,which eliminates those bars. Which is why I thought it was superior. Why would you want swaybars to go with your active roll control system when you dont have too?

The company that Mitsubishi has a long history in the Dakar with, which is also the company that Citroen used for their WRC car, offers several versions of roll control systems. One of which still uses what look like sway bar end links - http://www.kinetic.au.com/rfs.html Of note in the pictures that we have all seen of the rear underside of the Proto X is that we can’t see the center section of the bars, therefore we can’t tell if they have an RFS style decoupler.
Thanks for your mad googling skills. I referred to that system, and since I did you can assume Im familiar with it. I said it may have that system,but I would prefer it to have the other.

Your first link doesn’t specifically refer to the show car. Instead it references the prototypes that have been running around the test tracks.
Why would they have the system on a prototype and not the so-close-to-production car? Maybe it's cancelled? Maybe it's coming later on a higher end model? Guess what chief? I hope you dont mind but I already stated it may come out later. Thanks forum boss!

Your second link, while interesting because of the subject, doesn’t necessarily apply to whether the Evo X will have roll control.
Who pissed in your cheerios,why does it bother you?!?! I had 3 pages of interest and then the Day Care leader came in and complained. I dont think you have anything to cry about. I didnt claim anything as fact other than it didnt have the best roll-control system,instead at best a redundant one with both bars and the system.

Here you discuss .......
(Here's the part where you ramble on more with nothing positive or new to add,and whined about my post like you're in debate class-which this isnt)

Kinetix’s most advance system is still passive. If RFS was good enough for the all-conquering Citroen Xsara WRC car, I’m pretty sure it’s high tech enough for the Evo X.
Since you're so damn smart,why dont you tell me why it's so great to have a patched on system when you only need one? Truth is you dont know why the Citroen had it,or why Mitsu had it. Maybe they had it because until someone looked closer,they wouldnt notice. Whatever the reason is,you dont know,so dont say because a racecar had a variant of the system it's better. If that's the case,rip the interior out of your street car and pull your stereo,because the all conquering Xsara didnt have it.

Everyone seems to be looking for something to post about in this forum without having anything new to really discuss.
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Well,dangit D Im so glad to see that you are finally here to save all of us stupid morons who want to try and figure out what we're getting (or not) next year with this new Evo.

You have nothing new to discuss. You added absolutely nothing to this thread. Furthermore,you haven't posted anything new either,hypocrite. ARC was something no one else guessed about in 3 pages-defacto,you're wrong! Self-important,and whiney,that's about it.

I wouldnt be so annoyed by you if you PROVED me wrong,or added something,but I mentioned everything you referred to,all you did was google what I said. :

Cliff Notes: If my thread bothered you and offended you so much,go somewhere else. You were the only ***** (sic) that flamed me in 3 pages,and that says something.

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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 07:43 AM
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^ lol point.
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by BrrrPshBrrr
Yes I am,and so are you. So is everyone in this forum. Unless you're on the Evo team you are making assumptions. If we aren't allowed to guess or assume anything in this forum,since it's a "future" Evo forum,we won't have any threads,boss.
Ah ha, okay you earned all the points back that you lost for starting this thread the way you did.
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 10:06 AM
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I agree with the others, those are fairly different cars in quite a different price rang. X will most likely outperform those other cars..
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 10:13 AM
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it needs a ferrari class gearbox XXXXXXXXXXXXX along with 320 to 340 hp. not heavier than 1400 Kg
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 10:17 AM
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A Warranty !!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 10:19 AM
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I don't know if this was posted yet, but the rumors are true and that Mitsubishi will build a Lancer Ralliart that will be an entry-level Evo, kinda like how the Subaru WRX slots under the WRX STi.
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/02/02/m...ncer-ralliart/
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 10:38 AM
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very interesting, never heard of a connection between the railliart and the evo before. Will it have turbo?

Also, wondering what turbo the standard X will have?
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 10:56 AM
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won't it be nice if mitsubishi reads this so they will meet our goal of better than 350hp Evo X. as you know as of press time they have not release the numbers yet
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 02:18 PM
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I have to be honest, I am not to thrilled w/ the interior, especially that neon light that appears....just find it amusing that he says "touch of refinement" but after looking on the inside I dont believe its anywhere close to that.

On the flip side, I think this car will look good in person and am really excited that we get the Active Yaw Control...not to mention that Mitsu is probably looking to just put the STi in its place with this car (For all potential flamers I actually love Subies, I had a WRX and cheer for the SWRT) so its going to have a crap load of power. Whats even better from my POV is that they'll be able to use it in the World Rally Championship because its still a 2.0 liter engine.

w000ttt!
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