Again, why do you compare EVO to a Vette? Vette is in a different category. EVO is a versatile 4 door rally sedan with handling out of this world, Corvette is not. As far as looks are concerned different strokes for different folks, to me 10K is not worth the looks of the Vette as I think the car doesn't even look as good as European sports cars which Vette is aiming for. You can compare EVO to other rally machines such as STI/Peugeots/Citroens. And again, a 340HP Evo will beat a 400HP Corvette in a straight line, so again Evo is just a better engineered car from every angle. You must be an AMerican to think that horsepower is everything.

 

Well I am kinda on the fence on this one, yes if they mark up the evo close to 40k you will most likely be able to pick up a car for the same price (ie possibly corvette). But I dont think thats why it appeals to people for just performance. You get a full sized roomy car that can double at hauling the family and groceries and go 160+ MPH and do great on a roadcourse/track. I think thats why alot of people prefer it. The corvette is just fast and thats all its good for, but it looks good in the driveway imo.

 

Nobody knows, unless you can see into the future.

 

Someone above began comparing the two

This isnt suprised coming from a fanboy.. but reality check, ever heard of le mans? Why would evos never be competive there? Why do vettes constantly win and trash their euro counterparts even when they are greatly handicapped just to make it intresting?

Are you claiming that the evo out handles the vette? Thats not true... Vette does .98gs on the skid pad compared to .94 on the evo...low speed turning feels faster, thats its.

"You must be an AMerican to think that horsepower is everything" Only a ricer would think a 4 door box can over come something called aero dynamics and overcome something thats built from the ground up for overal performance.. no compromises in mind.

Even with all the euro goodies like SAYC the base vette ( non z51 with all kinds of upgrades) is much faster.... then you have the FQ400 which costs 8K more then the z06 which is also slower.

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Bottom line, 40K is a tough sell for a boxy car that is primarily popular because it offers great performance value for the dollar. Plus no one know what the new engine will offer as far as mods go.. probably very limited like the STi

 

Reality check, Le Mans is a race on a nicely paved road (and I am more than sure the winning Corvette was a race prepped vehicle, not something you would buy at your local dealership, just like Mitsu Pajero and Dakar rallies, they are winning it all but with cars not available to general public). Ever seen rallies? Where are the Corvettes in rallies? We are talking about tarmac/dirt roads (or lack of it). If you wanna compare Corvette to any Mitsubishi it would be a 3000GT (and back in the day VR-4 wiped the floor with a Vette of the same era, technologically it was a generation ahead). Evo is a whole different breed of a car, it's very fast (it's not a race car/it's a rally car, race cars are meant for nicely paved even roads) and also functional, something Corvette simply isn't. I, for one, if I would be in a market for a Vette I would be looking at 2 door, 2 seat coupes, if I would be shopping for an Evo I would be looking at STI or even GTI, Corvette is just another category, I would compare it to the mentioned 3000GT, Supra, Porsches and such.

Also you gotta remember that Evo is designed with accordance to rally rules, it's limited to a 2.0 liter turbocharged engine so they are at an disadvantage there. Corvette, on the other hand, from generation to generation instead of improving the same displacement engine, simply increases the displacement so it's easier for them to increase HP.

Bottom line, Evo has been selling extremely well here in USA so obviously there is a market for them. Their only real competition in USA is Subaru.

 

why are we comparing two completely different cars?
but seriously think for a second, would you compare a 350z to a honda civic?
your picking to cars from completely different price segments and a completely different buyer base
people think

 

Bottom line is you moved on to another car and you are trying to justify it to everyone else based on your value system. How do you know if its going to be a "tough sell"? Its pretty stupid to bring up Lemans when the Evo wasn't designed to compete in that series, just like it would be pretty stupid to try to take a Z06 down a rally course. When and if Mitsu ever makes another GT car, then it would make for a reasonable discussion, as VR-4's did more then hold their own against C4's of the day.

Evo is a versatile car that can do well in rally, drag, autocross, road course, etc - its a starter kit for whatever direction you want to take it.
Vette is GT road course only. And its good at it, we know.

So what.

 

is going under

 

How do you know Turbolover? Are you psychic or some business analyst?

 

Yes y r we comparing the Vette and the EVO? We're start to get way off topic. Anyways I think that the SCCA solo2 classifications are pretty accurate. The C5, C6, and C5 z06 are all in Super Stock. The EVO 8/9, STI, and C4 are in AS. Sorry but i'd have to say the Vette {C5 Z06 or better} is a better Tarmac platform than an EVO.

Anyways I like everyone else here has no idea how much the car will cost. If I'd had to guess I'd say it will cost around the same as the current EVO. Remember what killed off the old Japanese sports cars in the US. It was the price why would an American pay 40K+ for a TT 300Z, VR4, or Supra when you could get a LT4 Vette? They didn't and that's y those cars aren't sold here anymore. When Nissan did finally bring back the z 7 years later the price was drastically reduced 27k to 35k.

The same will happen to the EVO if gets to close to a base C6. Remember not many people have an EVO as a single DD car. I do but it wasn't my first choice. I had a Maxima and would have used it for DD. If I were going to add a second car it would have been a 2004 C5 Z06 but the way I see it. If a 99 Maxima and a 04 Z06 had a child it would be an EVO. FF 190hp car + FR 405 HP car = AWD ~286 hp car. Not bad.

 

I don't think so. The new lancer is great for the class that it's in. The new Outlander is selling really well also. I wish them well. They were nice enough to bring the EVO to the USA.

For instance stupid **** FORD, for some reason will not sell the Focus RS here in the USA for some reason. The next Focus RS is going to be bad ****. It's going to have the same brembo brakes, AWD tranny, and 300 hp engine as the Volvo S60 R with a 6sp. I guess they think that there isn't a market in the US for high performance AWD compact cars.

 

I like your analogy, I think you are on to something there with the maxima corvette baby . Also no mitsubishi is not going under, thats just untrue gossip. But I suspect that the X will be under 40k, I dont even know of a Mitsu has a car thats 40k , I may be wrong though.

 

Currently no. The Evo MR SE is the most expensive at least here in the US. I just checked cars.com for prices. The 1996 3000GT VR-4 had an MSRP of 45K and the VR-4 Spyder was 68k. WOW no wonder that car died here. I think 1999 was the last year the VR-4 was sold here.

 

The only reason we are comparing them was based on the statement of a 40K price tag on the evo... so wait, how many people on this board have ever taken their evo off road? less then 1%? Primarily people are buying the car to drag race it, road race, or auto-x...all of which a corvette would do better. Now I do nothing but stick up for on corvetteforum against a bunch of people who wont give the rally car the time of day. Bottom line is that the evo IX is an awesome value right now, but If you take away all that power potential and up the price substantially, you are going to alienate the people who want to buy the car.(early 20s just out of college cant afford a 40K car)

We have no price facts, so no one knows.. with the new joint platform and world engine, the costs savings might actually just be reinvested into the vehicle. In the low 30s, the evo is the best car you can buy hands down, but there are just to many other options at 40K.

 

What does that matter? How many Corvettes do you see with automatics driven by middle aged upper class women driving them back and forth from tennis, to the day spa, and then over to the mall? How may of those cars see a road course?

I have no way to prove it but IMO there are more people driving Vettes who could care less about its performance or know anything about how it did in ALMS or whatever then there are people driving Evos who don't know a thing about WRC.

So what's your point?