I'm planning on buying an Evo X as my first evo. Does anyone know an estimated price for it and when will it be released?

 

Why does the Evo have to be a 2.0 liter?
No, the US model could come with a 2.4 liter. The Evo X sold in other countries could be 2 liters. The Group N cars don't have to be based on the US spec model. They could be based on the Evos sold in other countries. There are Subarus in Group N. They aren't based on the US spec STI. They are based on UK or whatever models. Even for the road, last I knew, the Subaru "C spec" was the hottest Impreza you could buy anywhere (similar to the Evo FQ). The UK road-going "C-Spec" uses a 2 liter engine, not the 2.5 found in the US STI.
Anyway, I think Mitsu could sell it with a 2.4 liter here in the USA where we need all the help we can get because of our crappy gas (especially California), and it wouldn't take the Evo X out of Group N.

It's not 100% wonderful though, this idea of the 2.4 liter. You look at the 1000hp+ 4g63 drag monsters:
Brent Rau's eclipse is a 2 liter
John Shepherd's Talon is a 2 liter
Sean Glazer's (Extreme Motorsports) Talon is a 2 liter, not a 2.4 liter.
I think this is because they can turn like 10,000 RPM with the 2 liter 4g63 with solid lifters, and the strokers won't go that high.
But for the street, and road racing, and time attack? I would think the 2.4 would be faster, torqier, better all-around performance.

 

 

They had them allover, looked at the one in the showroom. Looks cool, but not as stand out as the last gen. It looks like the Mazda 3 alot and/or the Lexus IS, except the front of the car, that looks pretty unique and aggressive.
Nice stereo and the interior looks pretty cool.

They told me that the Evo X is already out in Japan. Are there pics of it on the street? Without the Concept X plates etc. I want to see peoples actual cars...

 

Yes, there is a working prototype being tested, but it won't be on sale here until next year.

 

Here is a video of the test mule.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=120064

 

They had them allover, looked at the one in the showroom. Looks cool, but not as stand out as the last gen. It looks like the Mazda 3 alot and/or the Lexus IS, except the front of the car, that looks pretty unique and aggressive.
Nice stereo and the interior looks pretty cool.

They told me that the Evo X is already out in Japan. Are there pics of it on the street? Without the Concept X plates etc. I want to see peoples actual cars...

 

Are you serious, or being sarcastic? "Sleeve it, not a big deal": so mabey I am out of the loop so to speak with Evo guys, from what I understand, you guys regularly void your warrantys on regular basis. So, basicly, you are all for giving up your tried and true engine built specificly to race in WRC for an engine which will have to be completely built to be able to handle 450WHP? Because, you know, it's not that much of a big deal to pull out the engine on your brand new 30k+ Evolution and have it completely rebuild with expensive forged internals and sleeves.

Yes, it's "outdated" in terms of emissions and cost for Mitsubishi. This new engine (GEMA) was not engineered and designed with performance in mind as the 4G was, but to save cost, weight, and easier to pass ever increasing strict federal emissions laws.

So basicly, a new Evolution will be in the same catagory as a K series Honda engine. What an "Evolution"

 

The Evo X was specifically built for Group N rally racing. That also includes the new motor.

 

Any info on this?

Everything information wise on these engines say they have been designed in conjunction with Hyundai, Chrysler, and Mitsubishi. None of the reasons list WRC. Mabey the chassis and AWD components have been revamped with WRC racing in mind, but to say the engine was is false.

Here is just one bit of info on this engine:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_...uring_Alliance

 

That's how it works in Group N homologation. I'm not talking about WRC here. The 4G63 in the WRC spec Lancer is not even the same as what is found in the street going Evo.

 

So basicly you have supported my arguement. Did you think that the block and crank on the 4G63 engine was a "special" or race engine on the WRC cars versus the production cars?

You see, thats my point. The whole "Evolution" ownership experiance is based on the pedigree and racing heritage of the car. Sure, the WRC cars are much more sophisticated and complex compared to the production version, but the whole cool part was the fact that essentialy, your longblock is the same of that of a WRC car. Look at all of the people who go fast with our engine: Brent Rau, John Shepherd, AMS, Bushcur, Marco from Magnus, ect. ect. Do they have a "race" block? Aside from some of those listed being filled with cement, they are the same block found in your car. Now, Evolution performance will be on the same tier as that of the Integra Type R. Minus the AWD of course....

Twenty-twent five years ago, Mitsubishi was a different company than it is today. It was seen as a company with a foundation in performance, and it showed in their products: the Starion turbo, Galant VR4, 3000GT VR4, Mirage turbo, and of course, the DSM line and Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution. Mitsubishi could afford to be the pioneer of performance that they were, and were vastly ahead of their time. Now, they have been reduced to a second-rate company in terms of production and the image they portray to their customers.

And when has Mitsubishi ever proven themselves to make a vehicle that vastly improved over the previous model? The second gen Eclipse was a suckier version of the first generation, and don't even get me started on the third gen. The fourth is only better than the first two when compared to the third. It's even arguable that the best Lancer Evolution were the III-VI. They were lighter, and still offered the same engine and performance levels as the VII-IX, not to mention it is also areguable that they handle better as well.

I hate to be the one who is the "whiney pessimiest douche bag", but I can honestly say with confidence that the VIII-IX are the last REAL Evos.

 

http://www.wrc.com/page/PWRCWhatisDe...,10111,00.html

 

The 4g63 in the WRC spec Lancer has a different crankshaft.

 

I agree. I remember seeing the 3000GT and Eclipse sliding around on a water covered surface on the tv. Looking back they really were ahead of their time. I actually think that Mitsu would be better off making just a few really great car and truck models instead of trying to be the next 'Honda'.