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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 04:46 PM
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could be ,since many car now days use aluminum block to save weight.
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 05:21 PM
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b.s. http://www.corvettemuseum.com/specs/2006/LS7.shtml
http://www.corvettemuseum.com/specs/2006/C6-R.shtml
Yes it is harder, some say impossible to bore the block anymore but they definitely can hold power...

But yes for doing mods the Lt1 or a non aluminum block can be better
with this post, you will always be a newb in my eyes
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 06:04 PM
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LS7 has seven liters of displacement and is normally aspirated. WTF does that motor have to do with a turbocharged 2.0? We're talking about making double the amount of hp per liter. Let's see that motor hold up at 1050hp, that would be the equivalent amount of power. And I'm talking PRODUCTION, as in run for 100,000 miles!

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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 06:11 PM
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from what i hear...it will be an open deck Aluminum block....witch means....nothing good. stickin with the 4g63
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 06:19 PM
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ummm......

let's do some math. 7 liters, aluminum block, 505 hp..... 72hp/liter

................................ 2 liters, steel block, 286 hp............ 143 hp/liter

And to carry it to extremes, there are a couple stock block (stroked to 2.3 liters) Evo's making north of 1000 whp, so conservatively 1100 hp.

more math.......

1100hp/2.3 liters X 7 liters = 3348 hp.

You realize your 7 liter corvette would need to make 3348 hp on stock aluminum block to equal the power per liter that real world Evo's are generating on their stock blocks?
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 06:21 PM
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actully some math would tell us the EVOX is going have 300bhp
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Lancerguy'03
actully some math would tell us the EVOX is going have 300bhp
lol,

even worse for the 7 liter monster!!

yeah, just trying to show the difference between what a steel block and aluminum block can handle. I'll be sticking with the 4G63 also.

First person with a stock block EvoX to reach 1000 whp gets a cookie!

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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 06:27 PM
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So has anyone that posted in here looked at the bottom end of the 4B? I am gonna go out on a limb and say that I am probably the only one. So what if you have to sleeve a block to exceed 500whp? This doesnt exactly seem to be hurting the VQs or anything else that uses open deck blocks. I could tell you what we used to do with D and B series Honda motors, but I will keep it to muhself for the time being.
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 06:33 PM
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yeah, that's kinda the point, we're debating about stock aluminum blocks vs. stock steel blocks. The fact that it's open deck is just another ***** in the armor. Sleeving is a whole different ball game, and can do wonderful things, but that's not the point being discussed. Not trying to be confrontational, just trying to keep it on topic.
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 06:35 PM
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The 4G63 has an iron block...Not steel...
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 06:38 PM
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Well keeping strictly on topic, Alloy blocks have more material and less weight. Its not like they are built with the same amount (and therefore would be weaker) of material. The main point of my post is the actual architecture of the 4B11T is better than a 4G63. The bottom end is just one of the reengineered facets that make the World motor superior.
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Lancerguy'03
actully some math would tell us the EVOX is going have 300bhp
And that is about where it will stay without lots of $$$$$$.
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 06:59 PM
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The 4G63 has an iron block...Not steel...
I'm sorry.... and steel is made of what?
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 07:02 PM
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Steel is an alloy...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Vigo
Iron is an element, or even an ore, but trust me, the Evo block is not iron.
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