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Old Mar 31, 2007 | 11:22 PM
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I've been reading about the WRX STI Spec C lately (which is a 2.0 liter) and there are some things about it that give me hope for the new Evo engine, at least for out-of-the-box performance. What really caught my attention in this first link is the tester's statement that the torque kicks in strong at only 2500 rpm and keeps going strong to 8000 rpm. That is a mighty wide range, starting very low. They rave about bags of torque available almost instantly at almost any RPM. They attribute this mostly to the IHI ball bearing turbo and an improved exhaust system.

Well, the Evo X is using an IHI turbo, and a Mitsubishi statement I found a couple weeks ago says the new engine is going to be a good match for the 5 speed manual (the regular manual with a clutch pedal) because of "increased torque" compared with previous Evos. Anyway, play the video in this link, it's pretty decent, good article too.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=120027

Too bad they don't say anything about what kind of gas they are using, but the test was done in Japan.

This second link is to an older article. It's has some interesting references to the Group N homologation. They only need to build 1000 of them to be Group N legal. By the way, "C" I believe comes from "Appendix C" in the FIA rules. Appendix C is where the rules for Group N and Group A are found.

http://www.autoblog.com/2005/08/18/s...eady-to-rally/
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 11:32 AM
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wasnt there a service bulletin about the syncros though?

you could try to get some warranty work out of it or just live with it like all mitsu owners do, my eclipse feels the same way, 5 speed
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 11:50 AM
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I get the same problem in 2nd and 3rd, dont worry about it. I've seen it go away when I drive for alittle while, but everytime I let it cool down and start it up again, it grinds again.
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 11:56 AM
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There is a ton of threads on this already

Replace the underhood shifter bushings
And I also have an engine damper which helped a ton with the smoothness and ease of shifting.

Gear oil (like redline mt-90) can help also.
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by chokeX
wasnt there a service bulletin about the syncros though?

you could try to get some warranty work out of it or just live with it like all mitsu owners do, my eclipse feels the same way, 5 speed
F that. I would never want some random guy, certified or not, ripping apart my trans.
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by bcevo9mr
+1 I was having the same problem, now I just let it warm up for a couple of minutes and its smooth!
There is no way to "warm up" your drive train fluids by letting the car idle.

Just staying out of boost for the first few miles will warm the fluids plenty.
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by prj.evo
There is a ton of threads on this already

Replace the underhood shifter bushings
And I also have an engine damper which helped a ton with the smoothness and ease of shifting.


Gear oil (like redline mt-90) can help also.
x2^^^^ and you could also get stiffer shifter mtg. bushings. I'd do the front roll stop engine mount rather than the damper. Damper's eaiser to install tho.
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 02:05 PM
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^ Really Mitsubishi will be using an IHI turbo for the Evo X? I find it hard to believe. Could you please show me a link where u got that info from?
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by o2thag
Sorry man but your posts are SO lame. It's been said a million times before but I'm gonna have to repeat it for you: "Wait till the 4b11T come out and people push it's bounderies before you open your mouth and bash it"
You say how 4G63 was build for racing and all of that and 4b11t is nothing because it was designed in conjunction with Hyundai and Chrysler so it has to be a pos. There are no real specs of the 4b11t yet just like I'm sure there weren't any info on the 4g63 when it first came out and how good it was going to be.
It takes time to prove something and to become a legend just like the 4g63. Therefore the 4b11t may make it or it may not, but only time will tell.
So stop talking like you've been to the future.
To conclude, 4G63 is a Legend and 4B11T is...only time will tell.

True, besides would Mitsubishi really let us down. I remember when the Evo IXs got MIVEC everyone whined about it ruining its performance capabilities. Guess what people have been trading in their VIIIs for a IX. Only time will tell.
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 03:44 PM
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it happens to me too... its not the best stick. i tried shifting at different points and 3 is the most best point to shift at without the gear problems and everything
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 04:40 PM
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I guess the best way to describe the 2-3 shift, is its crunchy. Happened to me when I first bought the car (5 miles on the odometer). As I keep puting miles on it, (currently 500 miles) happens less often, or maybe that I'm getting used to it and started shifting differently....
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 04:58 PM
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My 2006 with 26XX miles is *****y shifting from 1st to 2nd when cold. Double clutching until its warmed up solves the problem.
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 05:24 PM
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on my 3yr old 40k miles VIII 2 to 3 is the smoothest shift of all. The recipee is simple - bg synchroshift transmission oil change every 15k miles, bronze ****er bushings and 340 gramm razo knob.
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 05:28 PM
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shifting at a higher rpm helps a little too, i only have sycromech 2 and a short shifter(makes it worse lol). if i shift at 3500 instead of 2500-3000 its a lot smoother. i dont even notice it anymore, 26k on the car i shift smooth as butter....

in another 5k if your still doing it then you need to do something about it. its not like most cars where you drive like a pro after an hour of being in it. takes a little time

cheers!
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by mitsu IX
I drive a evo IX and when I shift from 2nd to 3rd the shift is not smooth and I can feel the clutch grab the gears is that normal with all evos or do I have a problem

change our your fluid for syncromesh. change it every 5-7k.

i have a '03 with 23k that shifts flawlessly (no bad syncros ever) on that regimen.
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