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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 06:28 PM
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how about the HKS Evolution Carbon-Ti Catback ? iheard it was good but it doesnt fit the evo 9??????
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by exiledevo
how about the HKS Evolution Carbon-Ti Catback ? iheard it was good but it doesnt fit the evo 9??????
No offense, but the HKS exhaust is junk. I've seen them rust. Go with Buscher, AMS, Perrin, Greddy
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 06:34 PM
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Here's the 3" Helix turbo back with High Flow Cat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIfa9OBFIHo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24eoC...elated&search=
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 06:40 PM
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Ams...my vote
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 06:45 PM
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I think it is completely worth it. It really suits the car so much better visually. Just evens out the side appearance of the car--the rear is now much better proportioned to the front end.

I agree I find it hard to believe that there is no crash beam for the Japanese, European, and other world markets, but again, no one has ever produced a pic of the "phantom" JDM crash beam. If you are hit above 10 mph the crash beam won't matter anyway since it is supposed to crush above 5mph. I am sure my modified beam is as good as the still-don't-know-what-it-looks-like JDM beam. And if anything does happen and the car is not totalled, I have my stock bumper to put back on.

You just need a rather large space to store it.
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 06:48 PM
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I just noticed that the brakes appear to be bigger.
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by exiledevo
what you all have on your evo 9s. i was thinking about a turbo back or cat back but i have no idea...help?
you definately need a turbo back. as for the rest....just search around this site and the net to find out whats out there. it's not really about name brands that you hear about all the time, it's about a full REAL 3" exhaust. buschur and AMS are big ones out there. i really like buschur's TBE, but I went with a Jun-BL cat-back with test pipe with a TTP downpipe. which buschur now sells minus TTP downpipe of course. take you time to decide.
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 08:09 AM
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Sorry man but your posts are SO lame. It's been said a million times before but I'm gonna have to repeat it for you: "Wait till the 4b11T come out and people push it's bounderies before you open your mouth and bash it"
You say how 4G63 was build for racing and all of that and 4b11t is nothing because it was designed in conjunction with Hyundai and Chrysler so it has to be a pos. There are no real specs of the 4b11t yet just like I'm sure there weren't any info on the 4g63 when it first came out and how good it was going to be.
It takes time to prove something and to become a legend just like the 4g63. Therefore the 4b11t may make it or it may not, but only time will tell.
So stop talking like you've been to the future.
To conclude, 4G63 is a Legend and 4B11T is...only time will tell.

True, nobody yet has attempted to make any power on this engine yet. But it dosn't take a rocket scientist to look at the specs and design and understand that simply, this engine can't and won't be as strong as the 4g63. I didn't say that because it was made in conjunction with Hyundai and Chrysler was why it sucked, read again. Do you know anything about engine block design and material, and why engines are made a certain way? Do you know what makes a 4G63 stronger than a Nissan SR20DET and why? Aside from me just being a pessimest, what makes anything I'm saying untrue?
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by silverEVO8
This might come as a surprise to you, but the vast majority of people who buy an EVO do not go out and have their engines rebuilt with stronger components to get 450 plus WHP. Actaully, the majority of people might think about modifying their EVO but only a few will do much more than bolting on an exhaust or something like that. Some will mess around with reflashes or reprograms of some sort and will get a few more ponies. In the end, hardly a small number will try to get monstrous power out of their EVO.

Bottom line is that unless the new EVO comes out with a piece of $hit, badly designed, poorly executed engine, it will more likely than not be able to easily handle the relatively low increases in performance that most folks will go for. Anyway, the newer car will be more powerful than the present car so how's that bad? Also, what makes you think that the new EVO engine will be a version of the new Honda engine? I'm sorry to sound hostile, but you are not making any sense at all. How and why would you compare the Honda K series engine to a Mitsubishi turbo charged powerplant? And anyway, just what makes the Honda K engine so bad? I get that you detest the new EVO X and that's fine by me. I just don't see why you use such irrelevant arguments to buttress your position. Anyway, take heart. You can still purchase lots of new and used EVOs so you'll not be deprived of your choice!

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Really? I can't count how many Evolutions guys I know in town with every known bolt on, and some cars which have already been blown up and rebuilt with a forged bottom end. I'm sure 75-80% of most people won't go into the bottom end, but still, alot of people are doing more than just exahusts and reflashes.

You misunderstand me, I did not say that Honda is related in anyway to Mitsubishi corporate wise. I said that the 4B11 shares a similar engine design to that which Honda has been using for years: all aluminum open deck block. There is nothing wrong with the K series, other than you cannot make as much power stock for stock on a 4G63 than a K20.
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by TalonTuner4G63
Really? I can't count how many Evolutions guys I know in town with every known bolt on, and some cars which have already been blown up and rebuilt with a forged bottom end. I'm sure 75-80% of most people won't go into the bottom end, but still, alot of people are doing more than just exahusts and reflashes.

You misunderstand me, I did not say that Honda is related in anyway to Mitsubishi corporate wise. I said that the 4B11 shares a similar engine design to that which Honda has been using for years: all aluminum open deck block. There is nothing wrong with the K series, other than you cannot make as much power stock for stock on a 4G63 than a K20.
im in no way a honda head anymore, but your going to actually say that the k series motor isnt capable of making good power? what are you smoking or drinking because i want some of that. the k series is one of the most powerful motors they came out with as of yet. if they arent capable of making power why are so many civic and integra boys dieing to get their hands on one. sure enought the k series is no 4g motor but **** i still have respect for it. the K has put the b series motors to shame with making more power with less mods.
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by donmeca2020
im in no way a honda head anymore, but your going to actually say that the k series motor isnt capable of making good power? what are you smoking or drinking because i want some of that. the k series is one of the most powerful motors they came out with as of yet. if they arent capable of making power why are so many civic and integra boys dieing to get their hands on one. sure enought the k series is no 4g motor but **** i still have respect for it. the K has put the b series motors to shame with making more power with less mods.
You guys just arent getting it. The K series is the most powerfull four cylinder engine HONDA makes. It is a great engine, but still inferior to the 4G63T in terms of strength. Civic and Integra boys are dying to get their hands on them because for years they have had to work with crappy D and B series engines and their little popcicle stick connecting rods, and finally there is an engine with an engine that makes great power out of the box, albeit with a pretty hefty cost in comparison to the B series.

What is the record of stock power of the K series engine? Mabey you know, because I don't. Is it 500+? Doubt it.
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TalonTuner4G63
Really? I can't count how many Evolutions guys I know in town with every known bolt on, and some cars which have already been blown up and rebuilt with a forged bottom end. I'm sure 75-80% of most people won't go into the bottom end, but still, alot of people are doing more than just exahusts and reflashes.

You misunderstand me, I did not say that Honda is related in anyway to Mitsubishi corporate wise. I said that the 4B11 shares a similar engine design to that which Honda has been using for years: all aluminum open deck block. There is nothing wrong with the K series, other than you cannot make as much power stock for stock on a 4G63 than a K20.
You gotta be joking or smoking some powerful crack. I don't know the exact number of EVOs made for the US market, but it has to be in the many thousands. I know many EVO owners and the majority do not modify their cars extensively. I'm sure that there are many out the who keep them stock. It all depends who you hang out with. If you hang with a bunch of hard core hot rodders, that's all you are going to know. If you hang around gang bangers you are going to think that gang banging is normal and most people do it. If you hang around partiers you are going to think that everybody parties hard...... I got news for you, people are different and you might be surprised that you are in a very samll minority
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Old Apr 7, 2007 | 07:03 AM
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Hmmmm, isn't looking so good. If this engine yells out "performance" to you, I don't know what to say. Pay attention to what they say about the cylinder sleeves:

4B11 Factory Training Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb4zdcD0G-Y
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Old Apr 7, 2007 | 07:12 PM
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Evo X's

Is there anyway that the might decide to make them manual to or is it just gonna be auto and no if ands or buts about it?
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Old Apr 7, 2007 | 07:48 PM
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There is DEFINETLY going to be a manual Evo X along with the auto.
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