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Old Apr 15, 2016, 07:28 PM   #3151
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Old Apr 15, 2016, 11:40 PM   #3152
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Old Apr 15, 2016, 11:41 PM   #3153
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Read all the way through the analysis to "In Summary"...

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2. The new SH-AWD and the GKN Twinster (used on the 2016 Ford Focus RS) are intrinsically the same.

http://blogs.youwheel.com/2015/03/31...sive-analysis/
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Old Apr 16, 2016, 05:35 AM   #3154
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"No question, this has become the performance hatchback to beat."

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...omparison-test
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Old Apr 16, 2016, 08:19 AM   #3155
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Read all the way through the analysis to "In Summary"...

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2. The new SH-AWD and the GKN Twinster (used on the 2016 Ford Focus RS) are intrinsically the same.

http://blogs.youwheel.com/2015/03/31...sive-analysis/
I read that as SH-AWD is better. Due to the use of planetary gear sets, the clutches see 28% of the load that the clutches in the GKN twister in the FoRS do. So it can handle constant torque transfer much better.

Sounds like Ford should have went to Acura for the rear diff.
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Old Apr 16, 2016, 09:00 AM   #3156
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"No question, this has become the performance hatchback to beat."

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...omparison-test
Acceleration performance results between the STI and RS are almost identical.
Within a tenth and a mph here and there. Then you look at the weight of the two...almost identical!!!!

Then the interesting part.......

Advertised power of both:
RS ~ 350HP and STI ~ 305HP
350TQ and 290TQ
9.9 lb/hp and 11.3 lb/hp

The numbers should give a superior advantage to the RS but this
testing acclaim shows results are actually moot by comparison.

Uhhhhh FORD

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...we know the GKN Twinster clutch pack is fully responsible to transfer power to the rear wheels. This means in the Focus RS, if each rear wheel gets 50hp, then this 50hp is transmitted wholly through sliding friction within the clutch. Hence, there will be serious wear and overheating issue if the clutch is engaged for a long time.
http://blogs.youwheel.com/2015/03/31...sive-analysis/
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Old Apr 16, 2016, 10:02 AM   #3158
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The numbers should give a superior advantage to the RS but this
testing acclaim shows results are actually mute by comparison.

Uhhhhh FORD
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...we know the GKN Twinster clutch pack is fully responsible to transfer power to the rear wheels. This means in the Focus RS, if each rear wheel gets 50hp, then this 50hp is transmitted wholly through sliding friction within the clutch. Hence, there will be serious wear and overheating issue if the clutch is engaged for a long time.
http://blogs.youwheel.com/2015/03/31...sive-analysis/
Cool, people had similar concerns when the Evo X MR first came out.
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Cool, people had similar concerns when the Evo X MR first came out.
And there is a reason (cough heat) that people go with the manual over the SST for track use.
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And there is a reason (cough heat) that people go with the manual over the SST for track use.
There has been a big change in how the SST is perceived between when it first came out, and now. Big power SST builds aren't rare anymore.
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Old Apr 16, 2016, 12:50 PM   #3162
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And there is a reason (cough heat) that people go with the manual over the SST for track use.
And (cough) proper coolers resolve that issue...
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Say it isn't so, you mean tuners responded after they actually had the ability to test the car?
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Old Apr 16, 2016, 01:57 PM   #3164
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Say it isn't so, you mean tuners responded after they actually had the ability to test the car?
Despite what you say, I do not see very many X MR's being used at the track. The SST is rediculously expensive to repair.

Also, I don't think simply adding a cooler is going to solve the GKN twinster heat issue. More than likely the whole unit will get swapped out of a mechanical one (like on the RS RX).
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Despite what you say, I do not see very many X MR's being used at the track. The SST is rediculously expensive to repair.

Also, I don't think simply adding a cooler is going to solve the GKN twinster heat issue. More than likely the whole unit will get swapped out of a mechanical one (if its even possible).
I see plenty with high HP.

Cool, so you know how to improve a car you've never seen or worked on? Awesome.
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